Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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No they're not mate, and that's the overall point.
Watching CCFC is no longer desirable.
To get people to go again you need to offer incentives, not charge a price which many people think is too much.
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No they're not mate, and that's the overall point.
Watching CCFC is no longer desirable.
To get people to go again you need to offer incentives, not charge a price which many people think is too much.
Cavan O'Doherty
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Price of course is not the only issue. The fact that it is league 2 football on a Friday is also obviously a massive factor, but the price is hardly encouraging people to go. Why not just make it say £15 for the Stoke match just to test the waters then surely nobody could complain why they didn't do it again if it didn't work. It's the fact that they're not even trying to put on an enticing offer as let's be honest, who's got 9 mates who want to go and watch Coventry vs Wycombe in league two on a Friday night. The Stoke game was a missed opportunity in my opinion, where they could've plastered the £15 offer everywhere and if it worked great, but if it didn't then at least they tried and all the people that you say make every excuse not to go wouldn't have an excuse.
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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17 messages, 2 yes answers.
I've even commented on here and no one has bitten.
What can I do?
Nick
Administrator
Yes, but then you also need money to run and pay the players. If you offer it for cheap and nobody takes it up you make losses.
The incentives are match packages, season tickets etc which is guaranteed money in the bank and a much cheaper rate per game.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Correct. They're just not interested. How many thousands are you predicting for tonight ?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Yeah, of course. The thing is, I don't control the clubs finances. I control my own finances.
I have to balance the books and live within my means!
Nick
Administrator
Which is where priorities come into it. Everybody will have to balance the books and decide what can stay and what can go.
Some people might prefer to spend £50 on beers twice a week, some might want every penny for the kids for christmas. Everybody has their own situation.
Irish Sky Blue
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Should have said why can’t we have our own system that works efficiently. Sorry to sound like the old git that I am. If the club 50 years ago at Highfield Road, before the age of computers, was able to cope with average home crowds of 34k, with very little difficulty( including a huge walk up on the day), why would it be so difficult to have your own system that copes with average gates of 7k in a cavernous, mostly empty stadium. Presumably the club pay Ticket Master, as well as the fans with the £1 admin charge. Cheaper tickets and more profit sounds a good combination.
Nick
Administrator
The thing with that is our own system still needs to be paid for, maintained, developed etc.
Irish Sky Blue
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Ticket prices in this country are far too high and are exploiting the fans.
However, that doesn’t excuse clubs over charging in the way that we do. The fact remains that for home fans to watch Exeter they can do so for £16, their cheapest admission price whereas for City it is £23. For families on limited budgets, they might just be tempted by the Exeter £16 whereas £23 may be a step too far. I think for most fans, being able to see their team is the main thing. We sold out the terrace at Accrington, most fans at away games stand. The fact that Exeter’s cheapest ticket is terrace and ours is a seat I don’t think justifies £7 a game increase. Most fans are there for the game not the seat.
However, that doesn’t excuse clubs over charging in the way that we do. The fact remains that for home fans to watch Exeter they can do so for £16, their cheapest admission price whereas for City it is £23. For families on limited budgets, they might just be tempted by the Exeter £16 whereas £23 may be a step too far. I think for most fans, being able to see their team is the main thing. We sold out the terrace at Accrington, most fans at away games stand. The fact that Exeter’s cheapest ticket is terrace and ours is a seat I don’t think justifies £7 a game increase. Most fans are there for the game not the seat.
Nick
Administrator
So why does it warrant Exeter charging much more for seats too?
For a family on a limited budget sign the kids up to the JSBS and get a family voucher for £22 for a league game so £11 per adult. If you have 2 kids that's 4 vouchers I think, so 4 league games at £11 per adult.
I agree, it's a nationwide issue not just CCFC.
Irish Sky Blue
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More to the point, why do Exeter have a section of their ground where fans can watch more cheaply? Presumably because they realise that some of those who stand on the terrace would not go if the starting price for a game was £22.
Nick
Administrator
Because they don't play at an all seater stadium?
Where are you trying to go with it? How many other clubs charge the same for standing and seating? Even Nuneaton charge you to sit down.
chiefdave
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Its very simple. The ticket prices were cut but the attendances didn't rise enough result in less revenue taken. Therefore the club put the prices back up.
If more people had turned up when they were lower they would have stayed low.
Irish Sky Blue
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Look at the gates in Mowbray’s/ twenty is plenty season. Average about 12k with some gates of 16k and 17k.
Adge
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Look-lets tell it how it is and stop this defending Ccfc's corner at every turn. We've established that football tickets in general are too expensive and that includes L2. You have used the examples of Exeter and Lincoln and Luton being £22/£24 as a marker. What you then forget to mention is that these are clubs that are on the up after promotions and fans are more likely to be on board, rather than a club in turmoil, who has alienated most of it's fan base and then get relegated and decided to put the prices up anyway from £20 the season previous.
Adge
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But putting the prices up when relegated is exclusive to us.
Yes im outraged about it,ranting,frothing at the mouth, sniffing glue, have an agenda, looking for likes, backpats aswell and whatever other ones that you like to throw out there. Have I missed any?
chiefdave
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Exactly, the rise in attendances didn't offset the reduction in ticket prices so the club took less money. That can work if you are getting all the other revenue streams but we don't.
Irish Sky Blue
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12.5K paying £20 brings in more than 7.5K paying £24.
Sky Blue Harry H
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If we halved the price, the attendance wouldn't double (in my opinion - which is the only one that counts!!) People turn up because they want to go to the/a match.
Irish Sky Blue
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Not saying half the price but sticking to the twenties plenty ideal sounds fair. ( In reality, still too high but fair enough in current structure).
chiefdave
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Except the average ticket price is nothing like that and you've massively overstated the effect lower prices had on attendances:
2015/16, when they reduced the prices, an adult season ticket worked out at £11 per game, concessions were £8. Match tickets were £18 advance, £20 on the gate.
2014/15 average attendance 9,332
2015/16 average attendance 12,570
2016/17 average attendance 9,111
If the total revenues were up then they would have kept the prices at the lower level.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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A few factors you need to incorporate:
That average in 15/16 would have been considerably higher had Mowbray not fucked things up from Christmas onwards.
The average would have been considerably lower had the prices been higher.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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It's very poor, but what did they expect? They priced the game with no common sense whatsoever.
pusbccfc
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I agree, but around 5000 Coventry sold is poor. It could be embarrassing if Stoke up their sales.
Adge
Well-Known Member
It could be-but will send out a clear message.
pusbccfc
Well-Known Member
Of what?
fernandopartridge
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Clear message that this club's support is befitting of its league level
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You still think 15k is unlikely? I think we are st the 12,000 mark now. I’m still hopeful of 15+
Londonccfcfan
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Over 12000 sold. Could get up to 14k possibly more by 3pm tomorrow.
Biggest gate in 2 years.
As expected the interest in this has STOKED up in the last few days.
MatthewWallis
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Yes
shmmeee
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Also we wouldn’t get half the profit per ticket. That first tenner has to also pay costs, the second tenner is pure profit as it were.