SkyblueBazza
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Except had they allowed him in unencumbered...they could've had a meeting with him & used the power of reason to convince him of the error of his ways. Opportunity lost!
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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (262 Viewers)
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Sick Boy
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Yes all of the country's woes are the fault of those pesky immigrants. They're just another in a line of successive scapegoats. We've had the Irish, people from the east, the west...the EU will probably be to blame still years after the UK has left.
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No they couldn’t. Power of reason doesn’t come into the equation. He is a semi literate idiot working on his gut feeling of how to please his base and he is educated by Fox News.
America was built by immigrants. Trump‘s family game from Germany. His mother was Scottish and his wife is Slovenian. The English are a totally mongrel people.
What makes racists angry enough to forget their own mongrel background is usually colour of skin and/ or religion. In Brexit Britain there is the additional contempt for people from Eastern Europe- except Putin's Russia, strangely enough.
clint van damme
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Captain Dart
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You really are an idiot, you think you understand other people but you really don't have a scooby.
Whenever you open your mouth about 'other peoples attitudes' (you despise) you expose your level of ignorance and isolation.
What is not correct in my statement? How am I isolated? Millions of people are criticising people like Trump and Bannon and their low educated base. Even if I were isolated, it still wouldn’t make your statement correct.
Captain Dart
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Again you missed the point, it is sad you can't read something someone else says and understand their POV, instead you go back to a literal argument you made and interpret what is actually a comment about your rigid thought processes and inflexible beliefs as a response to a those comments.
skybluetony176
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Ha ha ha. Convince Donald Trump he’s got it wrong. The guy is 71 years of age and is yet to admit he’s ever been wrong on anything ever. Yet five minutes with Khan and Corbyn is going to show him the error of his ways and change his perspective on everything. Yeah OK.
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Sick Boy
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I thought the poster was joking haha
skybluetony176
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It’s a good one if he is.
SIR ERNIE
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True…considering the long list of undesirables Corbyn has shamefully brown-nosed over the years and the tyrants Labour have rolled the red carpet out for, even Trump would be able to see through the comical hypocrisy of old Jezza and the little twerp Khan.
clint van damme
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what are you on about? Trump said he isn't coming due to the embassy issue. You are calling him a liar, well done, you finally got something right!
SIR ERNIE
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Keep up Clint.
Tony had rightly said that there was no chance Corbyn and Khan could ever convince Trump of anything. I agreed with him.
Not that difficult to understand surely, even for you.
clint van damme
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your mindless rants are always hard work to be honest.
SkyblueBazza
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You seem to know him extremely well...or are you believing what you read in the papers?
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SkyblueBazza
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Like I said...you cannot blame the actual immigrants themselves for seeking fresh opportunity to better themselves. You can however blame the system(s) that allow situations to develop that negatively impact on others...who then scapegoat the immigrants
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SkyblueBazza
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Thanks for the history lesson. Not really sure what your point is mind you
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I read his tweets, hear him speak, read about him, hear witnesses of his actions speak and read what they say, hear and read about his history. In fact, because of his long association with the media, public rallies and self promotion, it would be hard not to know a lot about him.
SkyblueBazza
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We will never know nownot sure that would have worked
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Your point was that „it“ is the fault of immigration. I was pointing out that the „English“, and anti immigrants Trump,are also the result of immigration. Hope the history lesson helped.
SkyblueBazza
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He is monitoring Britain, Brexit & Britons' attitudes very accurately & closely apparently...from Germany
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We know well that Trump often doesn’t listen to his own advisers. Why the hell should he listen to some Brits? Only chance of influencing him is putting some arguments on Fox News.
Sick Boy
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The UK has only had something like 10-15 years where we haven't had some kind of freedom of movement Freedom of movement didn't start with the EU - it's the norm for Britain
On the whole, migration has been beneficial to the UK and it's the fault of those who have neglected various parts of the country and aspects of our society.
I wonder who will be the next to blame?
I am actually and I was back in Britain recently to get a hands on viewpoint. I also hear the German viewpoint which, everything taken together, gives me a more balanced view than, say, someone posting clips from Breitbart, or bigging up Farage, Trump or Brexiteers. I also read newspaper forums to hear the other side. As an example one poster in a newspaper forum a couple of days ago said that Khan was a „Paki crook who only got elected because of support from other brown things“. I assume that got pulled not long after and that some would call pulling it censorship. I also think he is not the only one who thinks like that.
So yes, I can see what is going on in the UK, particularly since Brexit which has opened the floodgates.
SkyblueBazza
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Read it again..."No it is the fault of those who permit a system to be 'agreed' that facilitates virtually limitless immigration" - I think you completely missed the point!
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I know exactly where you are going... you are consistent... you blame those who agreed to immigration... If you could understand why we have immigration and why we will continue to have immigration even after Brexit, then you wouldn’t use the word „fault“...
SkyblueBazza
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I do hold those that think free unrestricted movement of large numbers of people responsible ('fault' being the word used by the poster that I responded to) is a good idea...& I understand fully why immigration happens, why there is in fact sometimes a real need for it, & that it will not stop as a result of Brexit you patronising tit!
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There was some cock on twitter the other day saying labour and in particular Corbyn would get nowhere as he is married to a foreigner.
There are many reasons he/they may not succeed.
A sentiment that may have found some understanding a century ago but inconcievable to me in 2018.
There are many reasons he/they may not succeed.
A sentiment that may have found some understanding a century ago but inconcievable to me in 2018.
Now the offshore tax havens are being brought into the negotiations....
„According to one recent study by Berkeley academic Gabriel Zucman, there is £1.4tn of “off shore wealth” located in the UK, Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey, Bermuda and Cayman Islands alone.
Meanwhile EU states including Spain, Italy, France, Germany, Belgium, Portugal and Greece are all countries with a higher than global average exposure to citizens and firms stashing wealth offshore“
Some dodgy millionaires won’t be liking that.... The UK has generally pushed back on attempts to regulate their Crown Dependencies by the EU.
They won’t be able to do that soon.
Will be interesting if the government plays along with the EU to get a good deal, or protects the tax havens.
„According to one recent study by Berkeley academic Gabriel Zucman, there is £1.4tn of “off shore wealth” located in the UK, Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey, Bermuda and Cayman Islands alone.
Meanwhile EU states including Spain, Italy, France, Germany, Belgium, Portugal and Greece are all countries with a higher than global average exposure to citizens and firms stashing wealth offshore“
Some dodgy millionaires won’t be liking that.... The UK has generally pushed back on attempts to regulate their Crown Dependencies by the EU.
They won’t be able to do that soon.
Will be interesting if the government plays along with the EU to get a good deal, or protects the tax havens.
Yes. This is it. The cat is out of the bag. People are looking for foreigners. Although they don’t seem to be saying that about Farage‘s French affair, just Corbyn‘s wife. The Express thinks Farage should be knighted or given a peerage- despite living with a foreigner and having half foreign children. Seems anti foreign partner is selective.
Sick Boy
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Tusk makes another desperate appeal...................for more British money basically..............fuck off you stupid twat, can't you see what a mess our own infrastructure is in without handing you shits a load of cash to benefit the Germans ultimately !! Mind blowing !
Kingokings204
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Saw this. When he and the others tell us to stay and demand a second referendum such as the honorable Tony Blair and cretins like nick Clegg, It’s desperate and confirms to me leaving is the best option.
It’s always been about our money (second biggest net contributor) and more importantly Tony Blair’s personal holiday money.
dutchman
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As far as I can tell, based the so-called 'negotiations' so far, Britain will be paying as much if not more towards the EU budget after Brexit as it is now.