The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (28 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

We had an advisory referendum in 2016 which has led to this shitshow. So, as you've stated leave are 100% guaranteed to win a second referendum, why would you not be in favour of a second legally binding referendum?

All the arguments that people have changed their mind, didn't know no deal was a possibility, hadn't considered the situation in Ireland etc would be gone and the result would be legally binding.

Why are leavers against a vote that would make what they want legally enforceable?

It would never be enforceable either way

 

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[chiefdave]

Junker confirmed no extension will he granted

The Benn Act will still apply though won't it?

Wouldn't that mean Johnson would still have to request one and then it would be for the EU27, not Junker himself, to decide if they grant one or not.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

The Benn Act will still apply though won't it?

Wouldn't that mean Johnson would still have to request one and then it would be for the EU27, not Junker himself, to decide if they grant one or not.

The EU27 will turn it down if that is the case

 

[chiefdave]

It would never be enforceable either way

Could you not do something similar to the alternative vote referendum?

 

[chiefdave]

The EU27 will turn it down if that is the case

Are you certain? Sky's political correspondent, Lewis Goodall is reporting "EU source says: “It’s not in his gift to rule it out, he is just defending the deal and saying one shouldn't be needed...I am 100% certain EU27 would permit an extension if deal falls on Saturday.”"

 

[shmmeee]

Absolute clowns, they will lose so many votes in the next elections

No more than the Tories will with hard Brexit to be fair. I think those horses have mostly bolted.

Also it is literally the policy decided by conference I think.

 

[shmmeee]

Are you certain? Sky's political correspondent, Lewis Goodall is reporting "EU source says: “It’s not in his gift to rule it out, he is just defending the deal and saying one shouldn't be needed...I am 100% certain EU27 would permit an extension if deal falls on Saturday.”"

No way EU goes against a sovereign parliament. Can you imagine the precedent?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Whats the remoaners plan now then? Vote down the deal and then we get no deal..... or do they actually do what the majority voted for and pass the deal

This will be brilliant

 

[shmmeee]

Whats the remoaners plan now then? Vote down the deal and then we get no deal..... or do they actually do what the majority voted for and pass the deal

This will be brilliant

Vote it through with a referendum amendment seems to be the plan.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Vote it through with a referendum amendment seems to be the plan.

We've already had one!!!! How many times would you want one then?? It literally is screaming and bitching till you get your own way

 

[chiefdave]

Whats the remoaners plan now then? Vote down the deal and then we get no deal..... or do they actually do what the majority voted for and pass the deal

This will be brilliant

What is different in this deal compared to the one originally offered by the EU that Johnson said was "the worst of all worlds", JRM called "cretinous" and May said was "a deal that no British prime minister could accept"?

 

[shmmeee]

We've already had one!!!! How many times would you want one then?? It literally is screaming and bitching till you get your own way

Calm down. You asked what the plan was is all.

Seem a bit rattled

Personally I think considering we’ve had two referendums, one join, one leave (after Brexiters screamed and bitched until they got their own way), third one seems sensible.

 

[Briles]

It is literally this deal or no deal. I don't understand why people will try and invoke the extension. Its like saying "You can lose your arms or your legs now or wait a few months to decide" Just get it out the bloody way. Think of the money you will save on shoes.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Seem a bit rattled

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[shmmeee]

It is literally this deal or no deal. I don't understand why people will try and invoke the extension. Its like saying "You can lose your arms or your legs now or wait a few months to decide" Just get it out the bloody way. Think of the money you will save on shoes.

Well be waiting for the new FTA to be agreed anyway. This is just the end of the beginning, we are nowhere near done with Brexit yet.

 

[chiefdave]

Well be waiting for the new FTA to be agreed anyway. This is just the end of the beginning, we are nowhere near done with Brexit yet.

I genuinely don't think a lot of people realise that. People seem to think once this is sorted that's it, we leave and its job done.

 

[shmmeee]

We’re in the upside down people

I genuinely don't think a lot of people realise that. People seem to think once this is sorted that's it, we leave and its job done.

Literally just heard that from a guy in my office.

 

[skybluetony176]

We’re in the upside down people





Literally just heard that from a guy in my office.

I had to double check that isn’t a spoof account and to my surprise it isn’t.

 

[shmmeee]

I had to double check that isn’t a spoof account and to my surprise it isn’t.

Shows him up as the grifter he’s always been IMO. The last thing he wants is Brexit over and people to stop paying attention to him.

 

[Grendel]

The Benn Act will still apply though won't it?

Wouldn't that mean Johnson would still have to request one and then it would be for the EU27, not Junker himself, to decide if they grant one or not.

well yes but then it’s no deal exit

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

We’re in the upside down people

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What the hell? I really don't know what to say to that. A man who has wanted to leave the EU since we joined is now complaining because the EU have told us to leave? But seems keen on an Act that could keep us in the EU for even longer?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Vote it through with a referendum amendment seems to be the plan.

About time! Should have done that with May's effort.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Someones not happy

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

They won't approve an extension...... its either deal or no deal

Just a month ago they voted (in a non-binding resolution just like Brexit) 544-126 in favour of offering an extension if requested. Obviously at that time no deal had been agreed so they may have a change of heart, but if the deal doesn't get through parliament who knows.....

 

[Deleted member 5849]

remoaners

Groundhog day for stupid people in here.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Just a month ago they voted (in a non-binding resolution just like Brexit) 544-126 in favour of offering an extension if requested. Obviously at that time no deal had been agreed so they may have a change of heart, but if the deal doesn't get through parliament who knows.....

But the extension will be rejected as per junk

 

[skybluetony176]

Whats the remoaners plan now then? Vote down the deal and then we get no deal..... or do they actually do what the majority voted for and pass the deal

This will be brilliant

No one is moaning about it more than Nigel Ferage.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Groundhog day for stupid people in here.

Haha knew you'd pop up

 

[Deleted member 5849]

No one is moaning about it more than Nigel Ferage.

I now understand wby we don't get many righty comics after seeing the Brexit schtick.

Remoaners, traitors, #bantz

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Haha knew you'd pop up

You need some new material.

Preferably not used to clothe an emperor

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Could you not do something similar to the alternative vote referendum?

Not sure if that wasn't advisory as well. Didn't find out because FPTP won.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Pregetably not used to clothe an emperor

????

 

[Deleted member 5849]

????

Remoaners ha ha ha lmao rofl mate

 

[Sick Boy]

What has actually changed?

It's been negotiated by a posh boy.

 

[Sick Boy]

Because in 2016 what did we have?????????

It was advisory and not legally binding.