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cc84cov

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You optimistic we’ll hit 100k tests a day by the end of the month? it’s a big target to set themselves which will somewhat backfire horribly if not reached
I can’t see ya hitting 100k tests a day as it goes on day by day they look even more out of their depth
 

Ring Of Steel

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I can’t see ya hitting 100k tests a day as it goes on day by day they look even more out of their depth

They sure do. It’s in the papers that we knew all about the EU ventilators and even attended meetings, but then declined it, which just shows the lying and bullshitting about ‘missing emails’. Everything has been messed up and that’s why you see our figures spiralling badly.

We have some great brains in universities and labs- shouldn’t have taken a private investor to fund those new pieces of equipment but the govt have (bewilderingly) rejected offers of help from the universities and labs, so I’m glad he did. I have faith in pretty much everyone trying to deal with this apart from the government.
 

cc84cov

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These useless cunts need removing from government it’s shocking where the fuck is the PPE,Ventilators & testing kits etc ? people are fucking dying as these wankers are fucking around Boris ?

Where the fuck is it all ????
 

Ring Of Steel

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These useless cunts need removing from government it’s shocking where the fuck is the PPE,Ventilators & testing kits etc ? people are fucking dying as these wankers are fucking around Boris ?

Where the fuck is it all ????

Says on twitter that Boris won’t be able to come out for a while yet, he has to isolate for the full 14 days, so whereas Hancock had British Coronavirus, looks like Johnson has the EU version.
 

Skyblueweeman

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Why don't you get redundancy?
Because 11 months ago I went from my permanent contract of 9 years to a fixed term 12 month contract covering my old bosses maternity leave. Technically I've just come to the end of that contract and they're not renewing.

Unless anyone knows differently. Employment law not my strong point...

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Skyblueweeman

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All the best weeman. Were you not permanent in the job there?
As above mate. I was but then took a mat cover promotion for 12 months on a fixed term contract. I had the option to go back to my old role but had done it for 4 yrs and thought that this 12 month mat cover would open other doors. It has done for everyone else who has done a mat cover in my company in the last 10 yrs.

Unfortunately for me, mine coincided with a world stopping pandemic.

Poor luck I guess. I guess I could've say no to them permanently filling my old role but I obviously couldn't foresee this.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and all that....

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clint van damme

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Because 11 months ago I went from my permanent contract of 9 years to a fixed term 12 month contract covering my old bosses maternity leave. Technically I've just come to the end of that contract and they're not renewing.

Unless anyone knows differently. Employment law not my strong point...

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I've no idea about employment law but it would be worth consulting someone about it. You never know.
 

clint van damme

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These useless cunts need removing from government it’s shocking where the fuck is the PPE,Ventilators & testing kits etc ? people are fucking dying as these wankers are fucking around Boris ?

Where the fuck is it all ????

And these are the same people who are supposed to oversee us negotiating dozens of new and wonderful trade agreements all over the globe. We've fucking had it
 

skybluesam66

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I've no idea about employment law but it would be worth consulting someone about it. You never know.
If you’re on a fixed-term contract
You will be entitled to statutory redundancy pay if your employer doesn’t renew your fixed-term contract because the job doesn’t exist any more and you had either:

  • a fixed-term contract for 2 years or more

  • shorter contracts that followed on from each other and added up to 2 years or more

And if you are entitled to statutory, you should also be entitled to company

so 10 years work at statutory = 10 weeks pay up to £525 per week (tax free)
 

Skyblueweeman

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If you’re on a fixed-term contract
You will be entitled to statutory redundancy pay if your employer doesn’t renew your fixed-term contract because the job doesn’t exist any more and you had either:

  • a fixed-term contract for 2 years or more

  • shorter contracts that followed on from each other and added up to 2 years or more

And if you are entitled to statutory, you should also be entitled to company

so 10 years work at statutory = 10 weeks pay up to £525 per week (tax free)
Thanks Sam. Is this your area of expertise?

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Sky Blue Pete

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You optimistic we’ll hit 100k tests a day by the end of the month? it’s a big target to set themselves which will somewhat backfire horribly if not reached
Nah people will just go oh well another thing said that didn’t happen. Where’s the explanation of why they didn’t do the last two aims on tests and the apologies for leaving the nhs staff without equipment or testing. It’s bizarre
 

skybluesam66

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Ring Of Steel

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As above mate. I was but then took a mat cover promotion for 12 months on a fixed term contract. I had the option to go back to my old role but had done it for 4 yrs and thought that this 12 month mat cover would open other doors. It has done for everyone else who has done a mat cover in my company in the last 10 yrs.

Unfortunately for me, mine coincided with a world stopping pandemic.

Poor luck I guess. I guess I could've say no to them permanently filling my old role but I obviously couldn't foresee this.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and all that....

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I would be amazed if you weren’t entitled to redundancy- legally I think you’d be deemed to be permanent after all that time, and also that your length of service after a decades service would probably not be seen as having stopped when you took the other role- you have 10 years’ service, we’re not talking a couple of months. Definitely get advice, it’ll be worth it.
 

Skyblueweeman

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it is not directly - I am an accountant, but have managed and had to make a couple of teams redundant over my career, so have some knowledge
There is plenty of legal advise on the web (From Lawyers)

This one is quite a simple summary
Fixed Term Work | Acas advice and guidance | Acas
Thanks. Would you mind if I PM'ed you some questions either today or over the next few days?

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Saddlebrains

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Spoke to my good friend who works at UHCW again yesterday. Daughters mother also works at George Elliot.

Capacity is fine as it stands and PPE is also fine across the board.

Has it not occured to anyone that this is media scaremongering to get everyone a bit shouty? I'm not saying there isn't a shortage on some places but the media rhetoric of 'oh my god they are having to treat patients wearing a quiche for protection' gets clicks. Adequate PPE doesnt

Granted London is probably a shit show due to population, but it seems (as it stands) the trusts in the midlands at least have got thier act together.
 

Nick

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Thanks. Would you mind if I PM'ed you some questions either today or over the next few days?

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Deffo look into it before you just walk away without it!

Would have thought as you have been at the company for so long you would be entitled, the change of job is not much different to somebody being promoted or moved about within the company is it?
 

skybluetony176

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Has it not occured to anyone that this is media scaremongering to get everyone a bit shouty?
Given that the media is just reporting what healthcare professionals all around the country are telling them then no, I don’t think it’s media scaremongering. Don’t shoot the messenger and all that.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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Because 11 months ago I went from my permanent contract of 9 years to a fixed term 12 month contract covering my old bosses maternity leave. Technically I've just come to the end of that contract and they're not renewing.

Unless anyone knows differently. Employment law not my strong point...

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If you are with the same employer, then you will have 10 years of unbroken service.
Would I be correct in assuming that you were seconded to cover the maternity post on a temporary contract basis at an enhancement on your previous pay? If so, then your original post or one at the same level should be available for you to revert to.
If that post has disappeared then the company will need to revert to a consultation process and issue you with an "at risk" letter.
Ultimately, if there is no position available for you, then they would have to pay you redundancy.
 

Skyblueweeman

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Deffo look into it before you just walk away without it!

Would have thought as you have been at the company for so long you would be entitled, the change of job is not much different to somebody being promoted or moved about within the company is it?
Already had some good advice privately from 3 forum members this morning which has put me in a more positive frame of mind. Going to start a thread on that at some point as this place truly can be a great place.

Bad to subject...I've got 3 months furlough to look into it. Need to get through today first...could be emosh! 10 years...such a massive part of my life. Even met the wife here when I started!

Let's do this...


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Ring Of Steel

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Spoke to my good friend who works at UHCW again yesterday. Daughters mother also works at George Elliot.

Capacity is fine as it stands and PPE is also fine across the board.

Has it not occured to anyone that this is media scaremongering to get everyone a bit shouty? I'm not saying there isn't a shortage on some places but the media rhetoric of 'oh my god they are having to treat patients wearing a quiche for protection' gets clicks. Adequate PPE doesnt

Granted London is probably a shit show due to population, but it seems (as it stands) the trusts in the midlands at least have got thier act together.

Yes it’s just social media hyperbole, the left are frothing and making things up. Our figures are looking great.
 

Otis

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Given that the media is just reporting what healthcare professionals all around the country are telling them then no, I don’t think it’s media scaremongering. Don’t shoot the messenger and all that.
Nope.

GP's and consultants all around the country have spoken of shortages.

If there isn't a problem at GE, I would say that is the exception rather than the rule.
 

Otis

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Already had some good advice privately from 3 forum members this morning which has put me in a more positive frame of mind. Going to start a thread on that at some point as this place truly can be a great place.

Bad to subject...I've got 3 months furlough to look into it. Need to get through today first...could be emosh! 10 years...such a massive part of my life. Even met the wife here when I started!

Let's do this...


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Good luck, Weeman.
 

Ring Of Steel

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Already had some good advice privately from 3 forum members this morning which has put me in a more positive frame of mind. Going to start a thread on that at some point as this place truly can be a great place.

Bad to subject...I've got 3 months furlough to look into it. Need to get through today first...could be emosh! 10 years...such a massive part of my life. Even met the wife here when I started!

Let's do this...


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Stay positive my friend- there ain’t no way you work somewhere for that long and not be rewarded with something as you leave- it won’t happen.
 

Skyblueweeman

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If you are with the same employer, then you will have 10 years of unbroken service.
Would I be correct in assuming that you were seconded to cover the maternity post on a temporary contract basis at an enhancement on your previous pay? If so, then your original post or one at the same level should be available for you to revert to.
If that post has disappeared then the company will need to revert to a consultation process and issue you with an "at risk" letter.
Ultimately, if there is no position available for you, then they would have to pay you redundancy.
Hiya. No, I wasnt seconded. I applied for the mat cover as it was in my area of expertise (my old bosses role) and did receive a pay rise. I was given the option of leaving my old role open but I had done it for 4yrs and wanted the change so I told them they could fill it permanently instead of just for 12 months so I could just walk back into it after my old boss returned from her maternity leave.

Some might say that was a mistake...and it looks as if it was. However, it was the right decision at the time as I'd seen every mat cover in my (at the time) 9yrs service, move onto something better at the end of the mat cover when the person they were covering returned.

Whilst I'm not the top of my profession, I'm certain I'm well thought of amongst senior leaders. A couple had also commented that I had done well and was brave in taking a mat cover and that I would be fine at the end of it.

Along comes coronavirus to completely change the outlook. That's the story really.

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fernandopartridge

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Because 11 months ago I went from my permanent contract of 9 years to a fixed term 12 month contract covering my old bosses maternity leave. Technically I've just come to the end of that contract and they're not renewing.

Unless anyone knows differently. Employment law not my strong point...

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I think you might have resigned from your permanent position by virtue of taking this fixed term role, you might want to check some of your paperwork though. Your employer should have offered it to you on secondment / temporary promotion (i assume it was a promotion). Was there a break in service? Were you re-engaged as technical new starter?

I'd speak to an employment lawyer just in case, even if it is in order to claim redundancy. You might argue it is reasonable to expect that even with a 12 month FTC you have continuity of service and thus are entitled to whatever the redundancy policy says tbh.
 

dazed&confused

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Spoke to my good friend who works at UHCW again yesterday. Daughters mother also works at George Elliot.

Capacity is fine as it stands and PPE is also fine across the board.

Has it not occured to anyone that this is media scaremongering to get everyone a bit shouty? I'm not saying there isn't a shortage on some places but the media rhetoric of 'oh my god they are having to treat patients wearing a quiche for protection' gets clicks. Adequate PPE doesnt

Granted London is probably a shit show due to population, but it seems (as it stands) the trusts in the midlands at least have got thier act together.

Enough of your nonsense. The hysterical, big-girl's-blouse politico scaremongers on this forum won't like it. I agree with them, by the way. We're all going to die. All 250,000 - 500,000 of us. Me next, probably. It's all Boris Johnson and that nasty Conservative government's fault, and this could all have been avoided if only we'd acted a bit sooner and thrown a bit more money at the problem. Italy and France will show us the true way forward. Hallelujah. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Posted at 9:079:07
UK still awaiting reliable antibody blood test
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Today Programme

BBC Radio 4

The UK has not yet found a reliable antibody blood test for coronavirus, England's Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said.

"At the moment we haven't got a reliable home test," he said.

The UK government is aiming to carry out 100,000 coronavirus tests a day in England by the end of April.

Mr Hancock confirmed the 100,000 might all be swab tests for the virus itself.

He said he was "not assuming any [antibody tests] come on stream" in order to hit the target by the end of the month.
 

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