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skybluetony176

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Hahaha

The time he hid in a fridge?
The time he decided to take on the might of Holly and Phil but ran scared of Andrew Neil?
The time he didn't turn up to the C4 climate debate?
The time he snatched a reporter's phone out of his hand to avoid questions about a sick boy?
The time he arranged an emergency COBRA meeting... For three days time so he could enjoy his weekend?
The time he went on a £15k holiday but wouldn't admit who paid for it?
The time he hid the Russia report?


I could go on.
None of those things happened.
 

Grendel

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Hahaha

The time he hid in a fridge?
The time he decided to take on the might of Holly and Phil but ran scared of Andrew Neil?
The time he didn't turn up to the C4 climate debate?
The time he snatched a reporter's phone out of his hand to avoid questions about a sick boy?
The time he arranged an emergency COBRA meeting... For three days time so he could enjoy his weekend?
The time he went on a £15k holiday but wouldn't admit who paid for it?
The time he hid the Russia report?


I could go on.

He was in a position of strength - that’s why he didn’t need to say a thing. Leaders in power and in the driving seat never ever look to weaken their position. He could have spent the whole election on holiday and would have won such was the dire state if Labour. He would have been stupid to do anything else. He ran a perfect campaign against a rag tag dumb opponent who had lost before the campaign even began
 

Ring Of Steel

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He was in a position of strength - that’s why he didn’t need to say a thing. Leaders in power and in the driving seat never ever look to weaken their position. He could have spent the whole election on holiday and would have won such was the dire state if Labour. He would have been stupid to do anything else. He ran a perfect campaign against a rag tag dumb opponent who had lost before the campaign even began

yes you’re right- Roosevelt, Kennedy, Thatcher, Blair, Churchill- all known for hiding inside a fridge when faced by the press.
 

PVA

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He was in a position of strength - that’s why he didn’t need to say a thing. Leaders in power and in the driving seat never ever look to weaken their position. He could have spent the whole election on holiday and would have won such was the dire state if Labour. He would have been stupid to do anything else. He ran a perfect campaign against a rag tag dumb opponent who had lost before the campaign even began

Amazing whataboutery, as always.

So you admit that he does hide away. Glad we agree.
 

Grendel

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yes you’re right- Roosevelt, Kennedy, Thatcher, Blair, Churchill- all known for hiding inside a fridge when faced by the press.

Blair and thatcher ducked live interviews when they were ahead during elections - when the opponent is losing votes every time he opened his mouth why risk anything?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He was in a position of strength - that’s why he didn’t need to say a thing. Leaders in power and in the driving seat never ever look to weaken their position. He could have spent the whole election on holiday and would have won such was the dire state if Labour. He would have been stupid to do anything else. He ran a perfect campaign against a rag tag dumb opponent who had lost before the campaign even began

All he ever does is crack off jokes and hold pints anyway he could have done both when he decided to run into a fridge
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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He'd be banned if he wasn't part of the clique.

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You think Nick is part of a political clique?
Fuck me.

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Grendel

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Amazing whataboutery, as always.

So you admit that he does hide away. Glad we agree.

He won - by a mile - his tactics worked - he wasn’t going to adopt the May approach was he?
 

Astute

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But that's probably the point. Send out all the lackeys while the figures are awful and then wheel out Boris the great saviour when the number of deaths start dropping.
More like it is both lots that don't have a lot of talent. Most of us would be able to give the Tories a hard time.
 

Ring Of Steel

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Blair and thatcher ducked live interviews when they were ahead during elections - when the opponent is losing votes every time he opened his mouth why risk anything?

Seeing as a proportion of those incidents took place outside of election time, your admirable attempt to justify has unfortunately failed.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Or alternatively, and here's a radical thought, but he really has been ill and it's pretty tasteless to go full-on conspiracy.

He can have been really ill and is still recuperating and his health should come first.

That also doesn't mean to say he (or his puppetmasters) won't delay his return longer than necessary so he returns when they have good news to shout thus psychologically distancing him in the minds of the electorate from the worst days but associating him with the good ones, making him look like a white night. He can then throw one of those filling in under the bus for poor performance (almost certainly Hancock) to look like he's taking action.

We will have to see when he returns but I do think it will just happen to coincide with good news.

Or if Cummings has it maybe he's not allowed out until daddy is there ;)
 

Astute

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Exactly.

But we know Grendel doesn't deal in facts, so probably quite a difficult one for him to digest.
G dies deal in facts. The problem is that they are false facts.
 

Ring Of Steel

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He can have been really ill and is still recuperating and his health should come first.

That also doesn't mean to say he (or his puppetmasters) won't delay his return longer than necessary so he returns when they have good news to shout thus psychologically distancing him in the minds of the electorate from the worst days but associating him with the good ones, making him look like a white night. He can then throw one of those filling in under the bus for poor performance (almost certainly Hancock) to look like he's taking action.

We will have to see when he returns but I do think it will just happen to coincide with good news.

Or if Cummings has it maybe he's not allowed out until daddy is there ;)

last thing I saw of Cummings he was on Sky News legging it over a fence- did he also contract the virus?
 

PVA

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He won - by a mile - his tactics worked - he wasn’t going to adopt the May approach was he?

Again, deflecting.

You said he never hides.

I listed a load of examples of him hiding.

You couldn't deny them in fact you basically agreed by saying 'yes he did hide and here's why'.


So we agree that he has form for hiding.
 

PVA

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He can have been really ill and is still recuperating and his health should come first.

That also doesn't mean to say he (or his puppetmasters) won't delay his return longer than necessary so he returns when they have good news to shout thus psychologically distancing him in the minds of the electorate from the worst days but associating him with the good ones, making him look like a white night. He can then throw one of those filling in under the bus for poor performance (almost certainly Hancock) to look like he's taking action.

We will have to see when he returns but I do think it will just happen to coincide with good news.

Or if Cummings has it maybe he's not allowed out until daddy is there ;)

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying.

Although they are fucking incompetent pricks they are not stupid and know how to work the optics.

Save Boris for when the numbers are dwindling and people will be clamouring for him to be knighted, even though he has the deaths of many on his hands.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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He was in a position of strength - that’s why he didn’t need to say a thing. Leaders in power and in the driving seat never ever look to weaken their position. He could have spent the whole election on holiday and would have won such was the dire state if Labour. He would have been stupid to do anything else. He ran a perfect campaign against a rag tag dumb opponent who had lost before the campaign even began

So you're agreeing he hid away for his own benefit.

He's so good that from a massive position of strength he couldn't be trusted to talk to a few people because he might shoot himslef in the foot and harm his own chances. What an amazing man to have in charge!
 

PVA

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So you're agreeing he hid away for his own benefit.

He's so good that from a massive position of strength he couldn't be trusted to talk to a few people because he might shoot himslef in the foot and harm his own chances. What an amazing man to have in charge!

Yep Grendel thinks he's only slating Corbyn by suggesting Boris didn't need to do interviews.

What he doesn't realise is that he's also saying Boris could not be trusted to do any interviews because of the damage he could do.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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He won - by a mile - his tactics worked - he wasn’t going to adopt the May approach was he?

You asked when has he hidden. Examples were given. Whether he does it for tactical reasons because no-one trusts him to do a basic interview (again, what a great example of a leader) is irrelevant. He hid.

Btw May hid as well - she didn't attend a leaders debate.
 

Astute

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So you're agreeing he hid away for his own benefit.

He's so good that from a massive position of strength he couldn't be trusted to talk to a few people because he might shoot himslef in the foot and harm his own chances. What an amazing man to have in charge!
Might shoot himself in the foot?

Why do you say might? Once we can get back to politics Boris will be a liability. He won't be able to get through the next 54 months on a single punchline. Get Brexit done? Next must be let's fuck the NHS up.
 

Grendel

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So you're agreeing he hid away for his own benefit.

He's so good that from a massive position of strength he couldn't be trusted to talk to a few people because he might shoot himslef in the foot and harm his own chances. What an amazing man to have in charge!

He learned from the car crash May campaign. The fact is Johnson could have just sent one message Get Brexit Done and took a holiday - his strategy won. If he started 10 points adrift he’d have been everywhere frantically trying to catch up ground. That’s oddly politics.
 

PVA

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He learned from the car crash May campaign. The fact is Johnson could have just sent one message Get Brexit Done and took a holiday - his strategy won. If he started 10 points adrift he’d have been everywhere frantically trying to catch up ground. That’s oddly politics.

Haha just can't bring yourself to admit it

Deflect deflect!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Might shoot himself in the foot?

Why do you say might? Once we can get back to politics Boris will be a liability. He won't be able to get through the next 54 months on a single punchline. Get Brexit done? Next must be let's fuck the NHS up.

Nah it's Make Big Ben Bong for Brexit (if it's been fixed)
 

Grendel

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This place is literally now a kindergarten - I’ll leave all you children to have a lovely evening - don’t stay up too late will you
 

clint van damme

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We still live in a world where to openly rebel against the leader at a time of national crisis would work negatively against the opposition among the people as a whole. It'd be a disaster for Starmer.

He missed an open goal when Hancock tried to throw NHS staff under the bus regarding PPE.
He should of said I don't want to politicise this but I can't stand by and see our wonderful doctors and nurses blamed for the lack of equipment etc. Couldn't have failed
Instead he made an end of lockdown statement which has been praised by the Adam Smith institute. I think we can see where this is going.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He learned from the car crash May campaign. The fact is Johnson could have just sent one message Get Brexit Done and took a holiday - his strategy won. If he started 10 points adrift he’d have been everywhere frantically trying to catch up ground. That’s oddly politics.

Stop acting like it wasn't Cummings running the whole show and telling him what to do and who to speak to
 

Astute

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He learned from the car crash May campaign. The fact is Johnson could have just sent one message Get Brexit Done and took a holiday - his strategy won. If he started 10 points adrift he’d have been everywhere frantically trying to catch up ground. That’s oddly politics.
And whilst on holiday he could have gone on a zip wire holding a Union Jack :D
 

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