shmmeee
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All anyone can do right now is guess and see if they were right when the dust settles. The best figures are overall excess deaths as that normalises out testing and cause of death differences and reporting differences.
But if you look at those graphs we’re clearly not over the peak (when that data stops with IIRC is about two weeks ago) whereas France Italy and Spain are, so even then it’s not like for like.
I’d place a rather large wager than when all is said and done well have one of the highest deaths per capita in the western world (barring the US), but we don’t know yet and anyone saying they do either way is just guessing too.
There’s second waves of the virus to potentially come, and maybe third and fourth waves too, there’s excess deaths from under treated chronic conditions and mental health issues which some doctors I’ve seen are predicting to be a bigger number than Covid deaths directly. Cancer treatments that have been missed or conditions left to get worse rather than attending hospital when they would’ve, it could be years before we know what those secondary peaks look like.
But if you look at those graphs we’re clearly not over the peak (when that data stops with IIRC is about two weeks ago) whereas France Italy and Spain are, so even then it’s not like for like.
I’d place a rather large wager than when all is said and done well have one of the highest deaths per capita in the western world (barring the US), but we don’t know yet and anyone saying they do either way is just guessing too.
There’s second waves of the virus to potentially come, and maybe third and fourth waves too, there’s excess deaths from under treated chronic conditions and mental health issues which some doctors I’ve seen are predicting to be a bigger number than Covid deaths directly. Cancer treatments that have been missed or conditions left to get worse rather than attending hospital when they would’ve, it could be years before we know what those secondary peaks look like.
