Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (154 Viewers)

SkyBlueDom26

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No positive posts about how deaths and positive cases are falling, just the same negative comments all weekend from the same individuals
 

SkyBlueDom26

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We’ve passed the number of deaths in Spain and caught up Italy who we had a two week head start on. What positivities do you what to celebrate exactly?
Hardly celebrate is it? Just maybe have a look and see that we are beating the virus and things are begging to look better instead of constant negativity.... it’s like a thread of piers Morgan’s
 

SkyBlueDom26

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How are we ‘beating’ it? We are hiding from it, we haven’t beaten anything.
How are we hiding away from it??? Contact tracing, lots more testing by the end of this month providing we do another 3 weeks lockdown we’ll have got it under control like Spain and Italy
 

Ring Of Steel

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How are we hiding away from it??? Contact tracing, lots more testing by the end of this month providing we do another 3 weeks lockdown we’ll have got it under control like Spain and Italy

How are we hiding? Yeah there’s this thing called ‘Lockdown’, you may have heard of it, nobody can go anywhere, everyone has to hide indoors and everything is shut.

as for the rest of it, they’ve fucked everything up, we are the worst in Europe and we are miles away from having it “under control”.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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How are we hiding? Yeah there’s this thing called ‘Lockdown’, you may have heard of it, nobody can go anywhere, everyone has to hide indoors and everything is shut.

as for the rest of it, they’ve fucked everything up, we are the worst in Europe and we are miles away from having it “under control”.
We have been under lockdown and it’s working? Yeah it hasn’t been as strict as other countries but we’ve still flattened the curve, will be interesting to see how we look in 2 weeks hopefully we’re doing as well as Spain and Italy now are
 

Ring Of Steel

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Well if you look at where they were a few weeks ago to where they are now, all the work locking down has paid off! Stop trying to be a smart arse you bellend

I don’t need to try, I’m actually holding back because I genuinely feel a bit sorry for the way you clutch at any old horseshit looking for good news.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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I don’t need to try, I’m actually holding back because I genuinely feel a bit sorry for the way you clutch at any old horseshit looking for good news.
Any old horseshit? Oh yeah let’s look past that things are improving in countries because it’s pissing you off! How about fuck off
 

Ring Of Steel

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Funny that you couldn’t reply to my point though ain’t it

nope, it’s not. You don’t have a point, half the time you’re banging on about Boris, acting the twat pretending we completed 100,000 tests, furiously deleting posts that show you up, or seemingly on the verge of weeping through fear. I’ve never actually seen you make a coherent point- therefore there isn’t much to come back on.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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nope, it’s not. You don’t have a point, half the time you’re banging on about Boris, acting the twat pretending we completed 100,000 tests, furiously deleting posts that show you up, or seemingly on the verge of weeping through fear. I’ve never actually seen you make a coherent point- therefore there isn’t much to come back on.
I don’t think things improving is ‘any old horseshit’ tbh, not sure why you’d suggest that
 

SkyBlueDom26

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keep trying
I’ve been critical over the governments respond to this, the PPE shortages, the shit amount of tests done before the last few days......but I’m trying to be positive as things seem to be falling here and elsewhere, everything doesn’t have to be so negative all the time, yes there will rightly Be an enquiry after all of this is under control but until then we need to stick together through this instead of point scoring at every opportunity it’s embarrassing
 

Ring Of Steel

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I’ve been critical over the governments respond to this, the PPE shortages, the shit amount of tests done before the last few days......but I’m trying to be positive as things seem to be falling here and elsewhere, everything doesn’t have to be so negative all the time

facts though, what is the point in telling lies to create false positivity and fool yourself?
 

Astute

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I'm interested to know more detail of how you believe the response to Covid-19 to be the fault of Labour?
This thread isn't a party political broadcast?

Show where I have said any of it is the fault of Labour. Yet look how many and who agree with your post.
 
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Astute

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Again for a Labour supporter you seem very quick to jump on Labour's back.

Fact is we did the Operation Cygnus in 2016 that highlighted these deficiencies and never acted upon them. At what point has Labour been in control since them to rectify the situation?

Personally I reckon if Labour had been in we'd have still not sorted out the shortfall and been in the same position as we are now. But we can never know. So all we can criticise is those that have had the opportunity and that is the Tories.
And yet again show where I have jumped on Labour.

Now try the truth. Several on here have had a go at the Tories not stockpiling medical equipment needed for a time like this in the last 10 years. I stated (Which is 100% the truth) that the Tories have had a lot more than 10 years and there have also been Labour governments that haven't done the stockpiling.

So what we do is ignore the Tory bit and say I am blaming Labour.

There hadn't been a pandemic for over 100 years. Would you like to disprove this?

Should we have warehouses all over the UK holding millions of items that need renewing every few years as would be past their use by date? Easy to say after the event.
 

wingy

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What's with this 12 strong scientific committee of Sir Dave King .
Is it derived on some sort of party political line?
A genuine attempt to better the advice or a tacit method to expose political interference either at ministerial or civil servant level of the scientific direction.
Or simply a delinquent stamp of the feet as you are now out of the loop?
And my God the messages are getting very mixed.
 

skybluetony176

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How are we hiding away from it??? Contact tracing, lots more testing by the end of this month providing we do another 3 weeks lockdown we’ll have got it under control like Spain and Italy
We’ve already failed to get it under control like Spain and Italy. We had a two week head start and them to make the mistakes to learn from for us. It’s absolute abject failure from the British government. The death toll doesn’t lie.
 

skybluetony176

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We have been under lockdown and it’s working? Yeah it hasn’t been as strict as other countries but we’ve still flattened the curve, will be interesting to see how we look in 2 weeks hopefully we’re doing as well as Spain and Italy now are
We’ll never do as well as Spain and Italy. Which is a shameful failure. They were the Guinea Pigs for Europe and we should have learnt from their mistakes and we didn’t. Hence the death toll.
 
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skybluetony176

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Well if you look at where they were a few weeks ago to where they are now, all the work locking down has paid off! Stop trying to be a smart arse you bellend
Their lockdown has paid off. Ours has failed as it came too late and the advice has been too wishy washy. Again, the death toll doesn’t lie.
 

David O'Day

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Yeah they are reopening and we still aren't really seeing out death rates or infection rates come done and we had to lie to hit the one target we had.

Dom we have fucked this you cretin

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clint van damme

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What's with this 12 strong scientific committee of Sir Dave King .
Is it derived on some sort of party political line?
A genuine attempt to better the advice or a tacit method to expose political interference either at ministerial or civil servant level of the scientific direction.
Or simply a delinquent stamp of the feet as you are now out of the loop?
And my God the messages are getting very mixed.

Claims to be independent but does sound a bit like they've thrown a strop because they're not happy with SAGE - perhaps they're justified?
 

David O'Day

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Defence Secretary trying to be the hard man on The Kay Burley show and saying they will decided when people go back fo work.

Apart from the places that didn't shut and they places that are reopening now.

Cretin

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wingy

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Some poll suggesting only 1 in 5 want to see things opening back up .
Like schools ,are they a child minding service?
 

tisza

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Their lockdown has paid off. Ours has failed as it came too late and the advice has been too wishy washy. Again, the death toll doesn’t lie.
Problem is weak leadership/govt. Most other countries have told people what they have to do and backed it up with proper enforcement measures/deterrents.
And people have accepted it in general.

Aren't UK littering fines bigger than the virus-related fines?
Tell someone it's a 300 or 3000 pound fine and they'll take it seriously.
Police wanting to concentrate on advising rather than enforcing. Poor.
In emergencies like this people expect the Govt to be authoritarian - not worrying about libertarian principles etc
 

shmmeee

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[QUOTE="wingy, post: 1990719, member: 2518]
Like schools ,are they a child minding service?[/QUOTE]

Yes. Always have been.
 

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