Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (299 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

Just seen a useful summary of tonight's speech so I thought I'd copy it here to help everyone understand:

Stay alert. If not staying home. Stay home if not being alert. Go to work. If not working at home. Work from home if possible. If not working from home don't use public transport to get to work. Even though public transport is available. At work do work. Safely. In a socially distanced manner. Where possible. If not possible do some other thing. Don't work at work if work is closed which lots of work is because work isn't reopening if work is one of the places of work we were told to close. After work play sport and sunbathe but only with people you live with not people you work with. Unless you live with someone you work with. Or work with someone you live with. Stay alert for the alert system which will wave about madly on a dial between green and red where red means everyone is dead. If you are sufficiently alert you might be allowed to be less alert after the 1st of June. But likely everyone will go mad on Wednesday and the needle will lurch to orange so being alert will revert to stay home and it's back to March 23rd. So, stay home. No, hang on, stay alert. Not home. But you should stay home. Unless you're at work.

 

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[Grendel]

'People in England can travel to other destination'
Is Skeggy isn't one then the message isn't clear is it?

You are trying to out Obtuse Obtuse with absurd Obtuseness

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It’s the sneering pseudo intellectual who believes the common man is dog shit and an uneducated moron unless they agree with you —PVA confirmed this

Like Stanley Johnson does.

 

[Astute]

I've quoted his speech which you clearly haven't watched.
Imagine arguing about something you hadn't watched or read!!

I clearly have watched it. And several times as Sky News keeps playing it.

 

[clint van damme]

I clearly have watched it. And several times as Sky News keeps playing it.

Thought you were done!
So.youre saying essential travel only is the same as people in England can travel to other destinations?
Thanks for clarifying!

 

[Astute]

Thought you were done!
So.youre saying essential travel only is the same as people in England can travel to other destinations?
Thanks for clarifying!

If essential yes. But you already knew this.

 

[clint van damme]

You are trying to out Obtuse Obtuse with absurd Obtuseness

Not really.
What I've said is correct (I think) given the ambiguity.
If the travel message is the same, previously essential travel only, why has he said people in England can travel to other destinations?

The social distancing message is the same and that hadn't been changed

Wait till next weekend when the sun comes out
Let's see if people got the message.

 

[clint van damme]

If essential yes. But you already knew this.

Haha!!

 

[David O'Day]

Haha!!

Genuinely what the fick is he talking about

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[Deleted member 5849]

Genuinely what the fick is he talking about

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Careful now with the point scoring.

 

[djr8369]

Ironic - another forum member with it seems a zero football match attendance

What does attending games have to do with pointing out your bullshit?

Or is it *shock* another distraction?


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[Skybluefaz]

Did you read the rules I put up?

You can also carry on making up your own stories as you usually do.

They will be updated come Wednesday to clarify exactly what this ambiguity means. Personally I'm guessing it will be a tweak that allows MP's to travel to their second homes.
Nice insult. Cut me to the bone.

 

[David O'Day]

Careful now with the point scoring.

It's madness. He is arguing the pm didn't say what he said on tv.

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[SBbucks]

So you was wrong?

And you are happy to be wrong again?

Yes but only short distances and a good reason. Is this too difficult to understand?

I have learned one thing tonight. I now understand why people are so thick when they do their own thing when all the information is out there.

No, I'm not wrong. The debate is about what can happen from Wednesday onwards, not what we can do today, tomorrow or Tuesday. The PM clearly stated that from Wednesday we can "drive to other destinations". In the absence of any further definition we can all interpret "other destinations" in any way we wish. And obviously the police can no longer stop anybody under the CV regulations (as long as we are driving in England, of course).

 

[David O'Day]

No, I'm not wrong. The debate is about what can happen from Wednesday onwards, not what we can do today, tomorrow or Tuesday. The PM clearly stated that from Wednesday we can "drive to other destinations". In the absence of any further definition we can all interpret "other destinations" in any way we wish. And obviously the police can no longer stop anybody under the CV regulations (as long as we are driving in England, of course).

Exactly astute is a flaming walloper

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[skybluetony176]

 

[SBbucks]

I clearly have watched it. And several times as Sky News keeps playing it.

So in that case, can you explain again why you don't understand it?

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Yes as previously I wasn't able to drive for exercise. Now I can and nothing has been said of a limit of how far I can travel on the road.

Skegness seems a popular place but it's absolutely shit..

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So in that case, can you explain again why you don't understand it?

Tread carefully or you'll be accused of lying

 

[Walsgrave]

Time taken to process a Home Office or similar document: 6 months
Notice the government insists it should give workers to return to work: 12 hours

 

[djr8369]

Tories are shit at maths. Surely there should be a × instead of the +

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Yeah otherwise the R is meaningless.


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[Ian1779]

What the fuck is this nonsense?

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

What the fuck is this nonsense?

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Step 3 show that your local blacksmith can open up.
Step 1 you can go out but you need to take your O level certificates with you as proof of something .

 

[skybluetony176]

What the fuck is this nonsense?

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I think it’s a new design profile for an aeroplane wing

 

[Ian1779]

So according to this piece of amateur shite the R value peaked at 1????

 

[Ring Of Steel]

2 brief thoughts/ questions

1. I just watched it back and yeah, it’s pretty confusing. But what strikes me more is how unconvincing Boris looks, I don’t think he has a clue, he’s just reading the autocue with the odd pumped fist for effect, he’s embarrassingly bad and about as ‘unstatesmanlike’ as anyone could be.

2. Why is everyone talking about Skegness, what has happened there

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

The impression I'm sort of getting from Johnson is a hidden "get back to work scum" hidden inside a massive dollop of craving popularity by easing lockdown a bit because people are getting sick of it. But make it massively ambiguous so if/when it goes tits up you can blame the public rather than the advice you've given.

This has nothing to do with it being the right thing to do from a science perspective, it's about it being the popular thing to do.

 

[David O'Day]

2 brief thoughts/ questions

1. I just watched it back and yeah, it’s pretty confusing. But what strikes me more is how unconvincing Boris looks, I don’t think he has a clue, he’s just reading the autocue with the odd pumped fist for effect, he’s embarrassingly bad and about as ‘unstatesmanlike’ as anyone could be.

2. Why is everyone talking about Skegness, what has happened there

Boris said people would be now able to drive to "destinations" without setting out any rules. Clint used driving to Skegvegas as an example of what the opaque statement could be argued to allow.

Astute showed his name to be ironic and posted a set of government advise from over a week ago before this statement as proof nothing had changed.

People laughed

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[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

2. Why is everyone talking about Skegness, what has happened there

It's been designated as an area of outstanding natural shite

 

[hill83]

Boris said people would be now able to drive to "destinations" without setting out any rules. Clint used driving to Skegvegas as an example of what the opaque statement could be argued to allow.

Astute showed his name to be ironic and posted a set of government advise from over a week ago before this statement as proof nothing had changed.

People laughed

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And septupled down on it.

 

[David O'Day]

Looks like after july the furlough amount will be 60 percent

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

What the fuck is this nonsense?

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Yep. R = 1 should be a long way down the curve, not the peak of it. Also at no point did it show the possibility of R going back up again and restrictions being put back in place, which it should do to show things could get worse again if people don't 'stay alert' (whatever the fuck that means).

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Fuck I'm starting to feel a bit drowsy and sleepy. Must stay alert. Will have to put an espresso next to my bed just in case.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

This I assume is why you are angry as you always are on the wrong side of an argument

You really should learn the difference between right and wrong and popularity. Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

These changes are being made because Johnson thinks they'll be popular. Not because they're right.

 

[hill83]

Fuck I'm starting to feel a bit drowsy and sleepy. Must stay alert. Will have to put an espresso next to my bed just in case.

Bonus point for not saying expresso