Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (72 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

Yes
You would expect so.
Somehow my daughter remains confident it won't affect this City toouch .
Not sure how she's reached that conclusion..

Even Oxford and Cambridge are warning of trouble ahead.

 

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[wingy]

I have a naive question but... where the hell do you get an appropriate face mask from?!?

Screwfix?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I think dogging is back on the agenda.

Screwfix?

I have a mask or two from B&Q, but not entirely convinced they're appropriate!!

For dogging or other pasttimes.

 

[PVA]

Boris is up in the commons at 3.30pm, should be worth a watch.

I am particularly looking forward to Starmer picking him apart.

Absolutely scandalous that this is Johnson's FIRST statement to the commons on Corona virus, and just his SECOND all year on anything. What an absolute fraud of a man, the laziest PM in history surely?

 

[Grendel]

We just don’t know - there are too many unanswerable questions. However the facts at this moment are:

We have the highest death count in Europe, and 2nd in the world.
We are testing under 100K people a day
There currently is no vaccine.

Now we can test more people which gives us more info, whether or not there is a viable antibody test is another question.

Countries that appear to have a better grip on this have been more effictive in testing and tracking where the virus is, but we fucked that bit up monumentally.

How do we make sense of all that? Let’s get some fucking basics in place first - some clear and simple instructions, sufficient protective equipment and more testing.

Deflect avoid avoid - at least I tried

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Boris is up in the commons at 3.30pm, should be worth a watch.

I am particularly looking forward to Starmer picking him apart.

Absolutely scandalous that this is Johnson's FIRST statement to the commons on Corona virus, and just his SECOND all year on anything. What an absolute fraud of a man, the laziest PM in history surely?

It almost makes me miss David Cameron. I have no doubt that even he would be doing a better job under these circumstances

 

[PVA]

Deflect avoid avoid - at least I tried

Coming from you?!! Pot meet kettle.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It almost makes me miss David Cameron. I have no doubt that even he would be doing a better job under these circumstances

He'd have stuck it to a referendum if we should go into lockdown or not.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Deflect avoid avoid - at least I tried

Your idea of opening the schools early is scientifically flawed and I've explained the evidence I would require to allow some groups back to work including schools. You on the other hand can't accept that we are the worst in Europe and even if you agreed to it you'd be looking for excuses to shift blame from the government. Just get away from being a hack/wind up merchant and if you want a genuine discussion then let's have one.

But not having it in bad faith

 

[skybluetony176]

So we should close until a cure is found? This could take 5 years. So will we close for 5 years?

We should lockdown until there’s enough of the correct PPE available so you can send kids to school, people to work etc in the knowledge that you have done everything that you can to protect everyone as much as possible. We can’t even protect front line workers at the moment as much as we can at this moment in time. It’s completely nonsensical to suggest we can all just get on with it before we’re ready as a nation.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He'd have stuck it to a referendum if we should go into lockdown or not.

I can just imagine that at Oxford he and Gideon had already drawn up their positions in government while humouring Boris about the possibility of joining in.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Apparently they consulted with the devolved nations but they seem to have read about the changes in the Sunday papers. They couldn’t talk about it in parliament last week as they were waiting until Sunday evening to get the maximum data before making decisions but it was a prerecorded message. The cabinet met yesterday morning to discuss the plan but the plan was already made and leaked to press. Really worrying trends.

I also wish they’d drop the three line slogans. It’s a pandemic not an election campaign. The first one worked fairly well but now it just feels like they’re going to have a new one for each stage for the sake of it and it’s just empty words which don’t communicate any actual information like “stay home” did.

Next one will probably be "GO TO WORK"

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I can just imagine that at Oxford he and Gideon had already drawn up their positions in government while humouring Boris about the possibility of joining in.

Well who's laughing now!

None of us, that's who.

 

[skybluetony176]

I'm sounding dangerously like some anti vax lunatic here. Fuck this whole situation.

You ain’t. There’s decades of data dismissing the anti vaxers arguments and their argument was very thin in the first place. This is a whole new ballgame with no historical data to refer too.

 

[Macca1987]

Yep. R = 1 should be a long way down the curve, not the peak of it. Also at no point did it show the possibility of R going back up again and restrictions being put back in place, which it should do to show things could get worse again if people don't 'stay alert' (whatever the fuck that means).

Did Boris the Buffoon also say we have the R rate down between 0.5 and 0.9 but it's nearer 1

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well who's laughing now!

None of us, that's who.

Dave's only honest act was to resign after losing the referendum. Boris should surely recognise he has failed his duties and let one of the few remaining Tories with a brain take charge for the rest of the term

 

[skybluetony176]

I have a naive question but... where the hell do you get an appropriate face mask from?!?

Had this very discussion with my boss this morning. He’s been trying to by disposable gloves for 3 weeks now as it’s part of our standard PPE for work and always has been. Can’t get them for love nor money. Now he’s got to try and source appropriate (I assume the government has clarified what appropriate actually means) face masks as well.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Clever ones do I am an employee and I have just said what time I am starting and finishing and they have said no problem

And if you've got a shitty employer who refused and said "be here at 9, leave at 5". If you don't you're on disciplinary. If you don't like it you can find another job. And due to money issues you can't afford to leave.

 

[Grendel]

And if you've got a shitty employer who refused and said "be here at 9, leave at 5". If you don't you're on disciplinary. If you don't like it you can find another job. And due to money issues you can't afford to leave.

They could have done that in the last two months?

 

[hill83]

They could have done that in the last two months?

More likely now though.

 

[Sick Boy]

Had this very discussion with my boss this morning. He’s been trying to by disposable gloves for 3 weeks now as it’s part of our standard PPE for work and always has been. Can’t get them for love nor money. Now he’s got to try and source appropriate (I assume the government has clarified what appropriate actually means) face masks as well.

We got 3 free ones through the door from the region, since then more have become available and there is a law capping the price at 50 cents, hopefully the government have got something similar lined up.

 

[Ian1779]

Deflect avoid avoid - at least I tried

Stop talking rubbish. When you come to the table for debate, admit your precious government have fucked it beyond recognition and then we can at least start some objective discussion. You’re still in La La land.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

How many school aged children have died if the virus?

How many grandparents have died of the virus after it being brought into their environment via someone caring for them who got it off a child?

 

[PVA]

My god, what a refreshing change to have someone actually able to pick up on - and pick apart - the government's bluster and bullshit.

Doesn't have much charisma, but Starmer is good at what he does.

 

[Grendel]

How many grandparents have died of the virus after it being brought into their environment via someone caring for them who got it off a child?

Anyone over 70 should be self isolating?

 

[Grendel]

My god, what a refreshing change to have someone actually able to pick up on - and pick apart - the government's bluster and bullshit.

Doesn't have much charisma, but Starmer is good at what he does.

Are you watching it? He’s nervous had no eye contact shuffling his script like a back bencher. Johnson is cool accomplished and dominating the conversation

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Stop talking rubbish. When you come to the table for debate, admit your precious government have fucked it beyond recognition and then we can at least start some objective discussion. You’re still in La La land.

He has skilfully avoided requests to do just that

 

[hill83]

Anyone over 70 should be self isolating?

As soon as you become a grandparent you instantly turn 70?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Are you watching it? He’s nervous had no eye contact shuffling his script like a back bencher. Johnson is cool accomplished and dominating the conversation

This is how we know you've lost any sense of objectivity

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Dave's only honest act was to resign after losing the referendum. Boris should surely recognise he has failed his duties and let one of the few remaining Tories with a brain take charge for the rest of the term

But but but.

We'd get Raab.

 

[PVA]

Are you watching it? He’s nervous had no eye contact shuffling his script like a back bencher. Johnson is cool accomplished and dominating the conversation

You are either a very committed wind up merchant or you are literally insane.

 

[PVA]

Anyone over 70 should be self isolating?

Did you even read what he wrote?

 

[hill83]

Are you watching it? He’s nervous had no eye contact shuffling his script like a back bencher. Johnson is cool accomplished and dominating the conversation

He's not answering anything! Fuck sake!

 

[PVA]

He's not answering anything! Fuck sake!

He is utterly incapable of answering a question.

With Starmer's background this is going to be a regular thing. In fact it will happen every Wednesday - he will pick apart Johnson's bluster with ease.

Johnson's style doesn't work so well with an empty chamber, he needs the braying Tories in the background for the full affect. Without them he just looks like a bumbling drunk.

 

[Grendel]

He's not answering anything! Fuck sake!

Starmer isn’t asking anything. It was a sleepy performance