Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (8 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Apart from when it comes to apps and other things!

We’re worse at copying people than Mr Bean

 

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[Ian1779]

Then we close schools until a vaccine and ban all contact sports?

No - you could look at some kind of antibody testing to see if it is already prevalent in the school age population. That would give you more information that is currently available and then be able to make a more informed decision on things.

That’s just one thing you could try and do before you contemplate sending kids back to school.

 

[hill83]

All of this is irrelevant anyway as NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

All of this is irrelevant anyway as NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

Point scoring lefty.

And on that note...

https://t.co/w6ptBdXgv6?amp=1

The plan

"People may drive to outdoor open spaces irrespective of distance" Page 27.

 

[PVA]

Tubes packed this morning.

Let's just hope they are STAYING ALERT!

Second wave incoming in a few weeks time then

 

[hill83]

My tubes were packed after that Domino's pizza and 7 cans of Guinness I had the other night.

 

[stupot07]

Point scoring lefty.

And on that note...


"People may drive to outdoor open spaces irrespective of distance" Page 27.

I wonder where Astute is hiding....

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[Sick Boy]

About the holidays, I think Italy will be open to tourists this summer, Sicily is even going to be contributing towards them as well.

 

[Grendel]

No - you could look at some kind of antibody testing to see if it is already prevalent in the school age population. That would give you more information that is currently available and then be able to make a more informed decision on things.

That’s just one thing you could try and do before you contemplate sending kids back to school.

And if you can test every child and only 10% have it then what? Refuse entry to 90% - what about higher education? I assume that’s closed until we find a cure as that’s involving spreaders with no real risk to themselves of infecting other communities?

Has any country got an antibody test?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

what about higher education? I assume that’s closed until we find a cure as that’s involving spreaders with no real risk to themselves of infecting other communities?

FWIW, Higher Education is intending to re-open for the next academic year, as things stand.

There's a very real concern, incidentally, that regardless of reopening or not, the loss of overseas students tuition fees could cause a crisis in the sector.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I wonder where Astute is hiding....

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Can I read it? Yes I can.

 

[wingy]

FWIW, Higher Education is intending to re-open for the next academic year, as things stand.

There's a very real concern, incidentally, that regardless of reopening or not, the loss of overseas students tuition fees could cause a crisis in the sector.

Yes
You would expect so.
Somehow my daughter remains confident it won't affect this City toouch .
Not sure how she's reached that conclusion..

 

[hill83]

"All workers who cannot work from home should travel to work if their workplace is open"

 

[Ian1779]

And if you can test every child and only 10% have it then what? Refuse entry to 90% - what about higher education? I assume that’s closed until we find a cure as that’s involving spreaders with no real risk to themselves of infecting other communities?

Has any country got an antibody test?

We just don’t know - there are too many unanswerable questions. However the facts at this moment are:

We have the highest death count in Europe, and 2nd in the world.
We are testing under 100K people a day
There currently is no vaccine.

Now we can test more people which gives us more info, whether or not there is a viable antibody test is another question.

Countries that appear to have a better grip on this have been more effictive in testing and tracking where the virus is, but we fucked that bit up monumentally.

How do we make sense of all that? Let’s get some fucking basics in place first - some clear and simple instructions, sufficient protective equipment and more testing.

 

[skybluetony176]

We have an opportunity, as we're behind just about everybody else in what's going on, to see what happens with them, and learn from it.

I'd like to think we'd take it!

We haven’t thus far, can’t see that changing with these donkeys in charge.

 

[skybluetony176]

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He should have stuck 9 peanuts up, they’d have come out a Treat. #ageappropriatejoke

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Facemasks from Wednesday now....unless you're watching on catch-up, in which case they are currently of no real benefit....

.....whats up next....come on, spin that coloured wheel BoJo

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Facemasks from Wednesday now....unless you're watching on catch-up, in which case they are currently of no real benefit....

.....whats up next....come on, spin that coloured wheel BoJo

I have a naive question but... where the hell do you get an appropriate face mask from?!?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yes
You would expect so.
Somehow my daughter remains confident it won't affect this City toouch .
Not sure how she's reached that conclusion..

Even Oxford and Cambridge are warning of trouble ahead.

 

[wingy]

I have a naive question but... where the hell do you get an appropriate face mask from?!?

Screwfix?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I think dogging is back on the agenda.

Screwfix?

I have a mask or two from B&Q, but not entirely convinced they're appropriate!!

For dogging or other pasttimes.

 

[PVA]

Boris is up in the commons at 3.30pm, should be worth a watch.

I am particularly looking forward to Starmer picking him apart.

Absolutely scandalous that this is Johnson's FIRST statement to the commons on Corona virus, and just his SECOND all year on anything. What an absolute fraud of a man, the laziest PM in history surely?

 

[Grendel]

We just don’t know - there are too many unanswerable questions. However the facts at this moment are:

We have the highest death count in Europe, and 2nd in the world.
We are testing under 100K people a day
There currently is no vaccine.

Now we can test more people which gives us more info, whether or not there is a viable antibody test is another question.

Countries that appear to have a better grip on this have been more effictive in testing and tracking where the virus is, but we fucked that bit up monumentally.

How do we make sense of all that? Let’s get some fucking basics in place first - some clear and simple instructions, sufficient protective equipment and more testing.

Deflect avoid avoid - at least I tried

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Boris is up in the commons at 3.30pm, should be worth a watch.

I am particularly looking forward to Starmer picking him apart.

Absolutely scandalous that this is Johnson's FIRST statement to the commons on Corona virus, and just his SECOND all year on anything. What an absolute fraud of a man, the laziest PM in history surely?

It almost makes me miss David Cameron. I have no doubt that even he would be doing a better job under these circumstances

 

[PVA]

Deflect avoid avoid - at least I tried

Coming from you?!! Pot meet kettle.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It almost makes me miss David Cameron. I have no doubt that even he would be doing a better job under these circumstances

He'd have stuck it to a referendum if we should go into lockdown or not.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Deflect avoid avoid - at least I tried

Your idea of opening the schools early is scientifically flawed and I've explained the evidence I would require to allow some groups back to work including schools. You on the other hand can't accept that we are the worst in Europe and even if you agreed to it you'd be looking for excuses to shift blame from the government. Just get away from being a hack/wind up merchant and if you want a genuine discussion then let's have one.

But not having it in bad faith

 

[skybluetony176]

So we should close until a cure is found? This could take 5 years. So will we close for 5 years?

We should lockdown until there’s enough of the correct PPE available so you can send kids to school, people to work etc in the knowledge that you have done everything that you can to protect everyone as much as possible. We can’t even protect front line workers at the moment as much as we can at this moment in time. It’s completely nonsensical to suggest we can all just get on with it before we’re ready as a nation.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He'd have stuck it to a referendum if we should go into lockdown or not.

I can just imagine that at Oxford he and Gideon had already drawn up their positions in government while humouring Boris about the possibility of joining in.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Apparently they consulted with the devolved nations but they seem to have read about the changes in the Sunday papers. They couldn’t talk about it in parliament last week as they were waiting until Sunday evening to get the maximum data before making decisions but it was a prerecorded message. The cabinet met yesterday morning to discuss the plan but the plan was already made and leaked to press. Really worrying trends.

I also wish they’d drop the three line slogans. It’s a pandemic not an election campaign. The first one worked fairly well but now it just feels like they’re going to have a new one for each stage for the sake of it and it’s just empty words which don’t communicate any actual information like “stay home” did.

Next one will probably be "GO TO WORK"

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I can just imagine that at Oxford he and Gideon had already drawn up their positions in government while humouring Boris about the possibility of joining in.

Well who's laughing now!

None of us, that's who.

 

[skybluetony176]

I'm sounding dangerously like some anti vax lunatic here. Fuck this whole situation.

You ain’t. There’s decades of data dismissing the anti vaxers arguments and their argument was very thin in the first place. This is a whole new ballgame with no historical data to refer too.

 

[Macca1987]

Yep. R = 1 should be a long way down the curve, not the peak of it. Also at no point did it show the possibility of R going back up again and restrictions being put back in place, which it should do to show things could get worse again if people don't 'stay alert' (whatever the fuck that means).

Did Boris the Buffoon also say we have the R rate down between 0.5 and 0.9 but it's nearer 1

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well who's laughing now!

None of us, that's who.

Dave's only honest act was to resign after losing the referendum. Boris should surely recognise he has failed his duties and let one of the few remaining Tories with a brain take charge for the rest of the term

 

[skybluetony176]

I have a naive question but... where the hell do you get an appropriate face mask from?!?

Had this very discussion with my boss this morning. He’s been trying to by disposable gloves for 3 weeks now as it’s part of our standard PPE for work and always has been. Can’t get them for love nor money. Now he’s got to try and source appropriate (I assume the government has clarified what appropriate actually means) face masks as well.