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Ring Of Steel

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Agree with you - I'm just saying that it is interesting that whatever decision Boris/whoever makes for 'England' is likely to be challenged at every turn as it accentuates the fact that they are a different country, Do you think that Boris/PM/whoever is leading us doesn't have saving lives at the forefront? If we were talking Trump, then I'll concede.

Its right to challenge everything, the problem Boris has is that literally everything he has done is wrong, and does not stand up to any kind of scrutiny.

Then when this is pointed out the right all scream "its too early/ he can't win" etc and go completely off the idea of decisions being challenged, and we get stuck in this endless loop.
 

Grendel

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Of course also overlooking all the other posts calling people cunts, telling them to fuck off/drop dead and other obvious signs that he isn’t OK.
he was doing the same 8 years ago!
 

fernandopartridge

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Agree with you - I'm just saying that it is interesting that whatever decision Boris/whoever makes for 'England' is likely to be challenged at every turn as it accentuates the fact that they are a different country, Do you think that Boris/PM/whoever is leading us doesn't have saving lives at the forefront? If we were talking Trump, then I'll concede.

What's the problem with that? They are a different country each with their own assembly / parliament.

Saving lives has parity with rebuilding the economy for Boris Johnson, whereas the other home nations appear to give it priority. The technical document is called 'Our Plan to Rebuild'.
 

skybluetony176

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Our school have done something similar - before the lockdown even began the school had sent home very student that had any kind of underlying health issue and told them to stay at home. Did the same with staff too. One of my responsibilities is for whole school attendance and it’s been made categorically clear we do not fine, refer or chase parents that choose to keep kids off when we do go back.
Apparently the head also said that they have 11 kids in at the moment of frontline workers and even that’s proving difficult to police social distancing. Especially in the playground.
 

Grendel

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shmmeee

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Common sense really pisses me off!!

Common sense is just a passive aggressive comment to someone who you think hasn’t understood what was said. I also find those who say it’s just common sense are the over confident types. I was told by someone on my team at work that the limit of one exercise session a day was changed when lockdown was extended. Well if so why is it now changing from one form of exercise a day tomorrow?

I used to have a boss that told us all in our first week “there’s no such thing as common sense, you learn everything you know”. Then got upset when we reminded him of this mantra when he was livid we hadn’t done something he saw as common sense.

He was of course right the first time.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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What's the problem with that? They are a different country each with their own assembly / parliament.
Saving lives has parity with rebuilding the economy for Boris Johnson, whereas the other home nations appear to give it priority. The technical document is called 'Our Plan to Rebuild'.
No problem with them taking their own stance. Just think it's interesting that whatever decision England takes there is likely to be a look at how Scotland has been damaged. England says lockdown equals damaging Scottish economy. England says open up a bit is risking Scottish lives. Both true, but a divisive approach always. I think it's a shame, rather than angry about it. Merely an observation.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Only option with young children going to school and nursery is going to be to keep the virus out by testing every member of staff and getting a result that day and having the place cleaned each evening. No way you can expect social distancing to be adhered to. The government are just pushing all responsibility to the public.


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Good luck with that with the size of a Nursery budget. Forgetting the logistical nightmare, the cleaning / PPE bill will bankrupt any Nursery within weeks.
 

Covstu

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Apparently the head also said that they have 11 kids in at the moment of frontline workers and even that’s proving difficult to police social distancing. Especially in the playground.
It’s going to be a nightmare. I have two girls, one in year 1 and the other in yr4 so one goes back while the other doesn’t. Other half is a secondary school teacher so she doesn’t look like she is going back although they are trying to sort out grades for kids who missed exams which seems a minefield. To add to it, it appears that childcare providers are looking to restart which will mean they will start taking the regular deductions even if you chose not to take your child back to nursery.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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It hasn't been challenged at every turn though. Everyone was onboard with the stay at home message. So much so Scotland etc are carrying on with it.
A point to you . I admit to not having followed all of the goings on ( partly for my own sanity ) so I may have picked up on this particular point and used it out of context. Happy to be swayed by reasonable argument. Still interested spectator with regard to how countries/ politicians respond with regard to party/national interest. Don't think we're as bad as those over the pond yet!
 

clint van damme

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Krankie is a terrible leader, so it doesn’t surprise me Scotland are behaving the way they are when it comes to sticking together as the UK through this

her message yesterday was crystal clear, no ambiguity at all. No matter what you think of her or her politics she wipes the floor with Johnson when it comes to leadership, (admittedly a low bar).
She also refused to throw Johnson under the bus which was very magnanimous of her, she should have called him out for the c**t he is.
 

clint van damme

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Common sense really pisses me off!!

Common sense is just a passive aggressive comment to someone who you think hasn’t understood what was said. I also find those who say it’s just common sense are the over confident types. I was told by someone on my team at work that the limit of one exercise session a day was changed when lockdown was extended. Well if so why is it now changing from one form of exercise a day tomorrow?

according to the guidelines if I'm in the park and there are 10 people around me, all strangers, who are 2 metres distance that's fine. If 3 of those people are family members from a different household we're breaking the rules.
They'd also be breaking the rules if they came to my house unless I employed them as cleaners, then it's fine. It's an absolute nonsense.
What use common sense means is use you own judgement because the government guidelines are as clear as mud!
 

wingy

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Agree with you - I'm just saying that it is interesting that whatever decision Boris/whoever makes for 'England' is likely to be challenged at every turn as it accentuates the fact that they are a different country, Do you think that Boris/PM/whoever is leading us doesn't have saving lives at the forefront? If we were talking Trump, then I'll concede.
Is this for real?
 

David O'Day

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Krankie is a terrible leader, so it doesn’t surprise me Scotland are behaving the way they are when it comes to sticking together as the UK through this
She's a good first minister and if you mean putting the people of Scotland first then good for her.



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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Is there anywhere I can check which borders are open where?

I was gonna drive to Ibiza but that's a bit out of the question so will probably head east.

I'll be attempting this in about 5 weeks time.
 

clint van damme

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Is there anywhere I can check which borders are open where?

I was gonna drive to Ibiza but that's a bit out of the question so will probably head east.

I'll be attempting this in about 5 weeks time.

I'd try the foreign office website, or search the name of the country and travel restrictions.

As for Spain, they are quarantining all new arrivals for 14 days but that's only due to currently last another 12 days so you should be alright in 5 weeks.

To be honest, you sound desperate for a break and I'm the same but you're probably better holding on until things improve globally, I think international travel will be a massive ball ache at the minute.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Is this for real?
Least said, soonest mended. Wasn't meant to offend anybody. Not in favour of the UK breaking up in general. Just thought it was interesting seeing opposing positions from countries within the UK, and possible political motivations ( whether real or otherwise)
 

skybluetony176

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Is there anywhere I can check which borders are open where?

I was gonna drive to Ibiza but that's a bit out of the question so will probably head east.

I'll be attempting this in about 5 weeks time.
My wife was looking into it this morning for driving to Costa Blanca and the best sense she could make of it is once you arrive at your destination in Spain you would have to self isolate for 14 days only going out for food, doctor appointment, chemists (basically how spain was before relaxing the lockdown) and then when you get back home in the U.K. you’ll have to self isolate for 14 days. So basically to take a 2 week holiday in Spain you’ll have to take 5 weeks holiday when you take traveling into consideration and not leave your hotel room, apartment, villa while you’re in Spain.
Staycation this year.
 

Grendel

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I feel like he has formed opinions of her from whatsApp memes. That may be unjust of me so I'll await a response.

There is evidence that sturgeon was involved in the lies exposed in the salmond trial. She is a far less popular leader in Scotland than Johnson is here. Sturgeon in normal times would be finished

She’s a serial opportunist who only went “off message” as she was banned from the last COVID meeting because she kept doing press conferences immediately afterwards to try and show influence and leadership

This virus is preventing salmond from his legal action. An action that will bring her down
 

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