Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (7 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

Back on topic and regarding schools. My wife was talking to one of my daughters friends last night who has a child with very bad asthma in reception and a child in year six with my daughter. She rang the school and said she doesn’t want to send either children to school as the youngest has asthma and the eldest could bring it home. The head told her it’s her decision and the school wouldn’t take any action. My wife has spoken to a friend of hers who is a primary school teacher this morning and she has said that the school she works at is sending out a letter advising parents that the school cannot practically in any sense ensure social distancing is adhered to and it’s for the parents to decide if they’re happy with that or not and decide wether to send their children back or not. Do any of the “faggots” on here have a similar response from the schools they work at?

They were talking about this on 5live this morning. I don't know if it's on IPlayer but a lot of teachers on pointing out how correct social distancing and proper hand washing (They don't have alcoholic hand wash), and cleaning of toys equipment is virtually impossible.

 

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[skybluetony176]

In fairness he probably got it from the same website that told him Lord Of The Flies was written by I Golding, so cut him some slack

Don’t you mean Lord If The Flies.

 

[RegTheDonk]

Think thats sensible of the school and probably the best they can do. Someone on 5live this morning saying people won't be fined if they keep their kids off.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Optional school return before Sept. could work well in many respects.
The attendance in the run-up to lockdown in my kids school was dropping significantly & was below 50% in some classes anyhow.

 

[djr8369]

Man staying alert for 0.125 micron-sized threat


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[Ian1779]

Back on topic and regarding schools. My wife was talking to one of my daughters friends last night who has a child with very bad asthma in reception and a child in year six with my daughter. She rang the school and said she doesn’t want to send either children to school as the youngest has asthma and the eldest could bring it home. The head told her it’s her decision and the school wouldn’t take any action. My wife has spoken to a friend of hers who is a primary school teacher this morning and she has said that the school she works at is sending out a letter advising parents that the school cannot practically in any sense ensure social distancing is adhered to and it’s for the parents to decide if they’re happy with that or not and decide wether to send their children back or not. Do any of the “faggots” on here have a similar response from the schools they work at?

Our school have done something similar - before the lockdown even began the school had sent home very student that had any kind of underlying health issue and told them to stay at home. Did the same with staff too. One of my responsibilities is for whole school attendance and it’s been made categorically clear we do not fine, refer or chase parents that choose to keep kids off when we do go back.

 

[djr8369]

Only option with young children going to school and nursery is going to be to keep the virus out by testing every member of staff and getting a result that day and having the place cleaned each evening. No way you can expect social distancing to be adhered to. The government are just pushing all responsibility to the public.


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[Sky Blue Pete]

Common sense really pisses me off!!

Common sense is just a passive aggressive comment to someone who you think hasn’t understood what was said. I also find those who say it’s just common sense are the over confident types. I was told by someone on my team at work that the limit of one exercise session a day was changed when lockdown was extended. Well if so why is it now changing from one form of exercise a day tomorrow?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I've stayed out of the politics so far, but will make the following observations.

Keir Starmer has come across as a reasonable leader (profess to know little about him)
Boris is in a no win position. Clearly he won't be dealing with any of the detail (down to others), but whoever is in charge of leading the country is going to be criticised for either messing up the economy or causing the death of additional people. Easy time to be in opposition, which is why I am glad Starmer isn't taking cheap pot shots. If ever there was a time for all sides to be working together, it's now. it's not time for Brexit 2. Also find it interesting how Scotland, Wales etc are trying to establish a different agenda, which the cynic in me thinks they are trying to accentuate their national identity, rather than all working together. Not a time to play politics for politics sake.

Krankie is a terrible leader, so it doesn’t surprise me Scotland are behaving the way they are when it comes to sticking together as the UK through this

 

[djr8369]

Common sense really pisses me off!!

Common sense is just a passive aggressive comment to someone who you think hasn’t understood what was said. I also find those who say it’s just common sense are the over confident types. I was told by someone on my team at work that the limit of one exercise session a day was changed when lockdown was extended. Well if so why is it now changing from one form of exercise a day tomorrow?

The people who bang on about common sense are always the ones who haven’t thought through the details or technicalities.


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[djr8369]

Krankie is a terrible leader, so it doesn’t surprise me Scotland are behaving the way they are when it comes to sticking together as the UK through this

“Let’s all die together!”


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[Skybluefaz]

Krankie is a terrible leader, so it doesn’t surprise me Scotland are behaving the way they are when it comes to sticking together as the UK through this

What in particular makes her a terrible leader?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Krankie is a terrible leader, so it doesn’t surprise me Scotland are behaving the way they are when it comes to sticking together as the UK through this

How are we sticking together with them? Are Scotland, Wales, *and* NI all wrong while we're right?

 

[djr8369]

If anyone wants to visit their parents get them to employ you as a cleaner #commonsense


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[fernandopartridge]

It isn't the welsh, scottish or irish that have an inferiority complex, it's the English and it isn't surprising, the English voters are responsible by and large for electing this shower of a government.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Exactly this. Saving lives is not playing politics ffs.

Agree with you - I'm just saying that it is interesting that whatever decision Boris/whoever makes for 'England' is likely to be challenged at every turn as it accentuates the fact that they are a different country, Do you think that Boris/PM/whoever is leading us doesn't have saving lives at the forefront? If we were talking Trump, then I'll concede.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It isn't the welsh, scottish or irish that have an inferiority complex, it's the English and it isn't surprising, the English voters are responsible by and large for electing this shower of a government.

This is true

 

[hill83]

Agree with you - I'm just saying that it is interesting that whatever decision Boris/whoever makes for 'England' is likely to be challenged at every turn as it accentuates the fact that they are a different country, Do you think that Boris/PM/whoever is leading us doesn't have saving lives at the forefront? If we were talking Trump, then I'll concede.

It hasn't been challenged at every turn though. Everyone was onboard with the stay at home message. So much so Scotland etc are carrying on with it.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Agree with you - I'm just saying that it is interesting that whatever decision Boris/whoever makes for 'England' is likely to be challenged at every turn as it accentuates the fact that they are a different country, Do you think that Boris/PM/whoever is leading us doesn't have saving lives at the forefront? If we were talking Trump, then I'll concede.

Its right to challenge everything, the problem Boris has is that literally everything he has done is wrong, and does not stand up to any kind of scrutiny.

Then when this is pointed out the right all scream "its too early/ he can't win" etc and go completely off the idea of decisions being challenged, and we get stuck in this endless loop.

 

[Grendel]

Of course also overlooking all the other posts calling people cunts, telling them to fuck off/drop dead and other obvious signs that he isn’t OK.

he was doing the same 8 years ago!

 

[hill83]

Is it valiant then? I always thought he was ok. If it is time has done him no favours.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Is it valiant then? I always thought he was ok. If it is time has done him no favours.

Not surprised to hear he did time.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Agree with you - I'm just saying that it is interesting that whatever decision Boris/whoever makes for 'England' is likely to be challenged at every turn as it accentuates the fact that they are a different country, Do you think that Boris/PM/whoever is leading us doesn't have saving lives at the forefront? If we were talking Trump, then I'll concede.

What's the problem with that? They are a different country each with their own assembly / parliament.

Saving lives has parity with rebuilding the economy for Boris Johnson, whereas the other home nations appear to give it priority. The technical document is called 'Our Plan to Rebuild'.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

What in particular makes her a terrible leader?

Misogynist fcukwit ! Dim26(braincells) that is..... not you SkyBlueFaz !

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Misogynist fcukwit !

Nice way to talk about yourself

 

[skybluetony176]

Our school have done something similar - before the lockdown even began the school had sent home very student that had any kind of underlying health issue and told them to stay at home. Did the same with staff too. One of my responsibilities is for whole school attendance and it’s been made categorically clear we do not fine, refer or chase parents that choose to keep kids off when we do go back.

Apparently the head also said that they have 11 kids in at the moment of frontline workers and even that’s proving difficult to police social distancing. Especially in the playground.

 

[Grendel]

Is it valiant then? I always thought he was ok. If it is time has done him no favours.

Yes it’s him

 

[shmmeee]

Common sense really pisses me off!!

Common sense is just a passive aggressive comment to someone who you think hasn’t understood what was said. I also find those who say it’s just common sense are the over confident types. I was told by someone on my team at work that the limit of one exercise session a day was changed when lockdown was extended. Well if so why is it now changing from one form of exercise a day tomorrow?

I used to have a boss that told us all in our first week “there’s no such thing as common sense, you learn everything you know”. Then got upset when we reminded him of this mantra when he was livid we hadn’t done something he saw as common sense.

He was of course right the first time.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

What's the problem with that? They are a different country each with their own assembly / parliament.
Saving lives has parity with rebuilding the economy for Boris Johnson, whereas the other home nations appear to give it priority. The technical document is called 'Our Plan to Rebuild'.

No problem with them taking their own stance. Just think it's interesting that whatever decision England takes there is likely to be a look at how Scotland has been damaged. England says lockdown equals damaging Scottish economy. England says open up a bit is risking Scottish lives. Both true, but a divisive approach always. I think it's a shame, rather than angry about it. Merely an observation.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Only option with young children going to school and nursery is going to be to keep the virus out by testing every member of staff and getting a result that day and having the place cleaned each evening. No way you can expect social distancing to be adhered to. The government are just pushing all responsibility to the public.


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Good luck with that with the size of a Nursery budget. Forgetting the logistical nightmare, the cleaning / PPE bill will bankrupt any Nursery within weeks.

 

[Covstu]

Apparently the head also said that they have 11 kids in at the moment of frontline workers and even that’s proving difficult to police social distancing. Especially in the playground.

It’s going to be a nightmare. I have two girls, one in year 1 and the other in yr4 so one goes back while the other doesn’t. Other half is a secondary school teacher so she doesn’t look like she is going back although they are trying to sort out grades for kids who missed exams which seems a minefield. To add to it, it appears that childcare providers are looking to restart which will mean they will start taking the regular deductions even if you chose not to take your child back to nursery.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

It hasn't been challenged at every turn though. Everyone was onboard with the stay at home message. So much so Scotland etc are carrying on with it.

A point to you . I admit to not having followed all of the goings on ( partly for my own sanity ) so I may have picked up on this particular point and used it out of context. Happy to be swayed by reasonable argument. Still interested spectator with regard to how countries/ politicians respond with regard to party/national interest. Don't think we're as bad as those over the pond yet!

 

[clint van damme]

Krankie is a terrible leader, so it doesn’t surprise me Scotland are behaving the way they are when it comes to sticking together as the UK through this

her message yesterday was crystal clear, no ambiguity at all. No matter what you think of her or her politics she wipes the floor with Johnson when it comes to leadership, (admittedly a low bar).
She also refused to throw Johnson under the bus which was very magnanimous of her, she should have called him out for the c**t he is.

 

[shmmeee]

Think I’ve done that so you can see the whole thread.

 

[PVA]

Krankie is a terrible leader, so it doesn’t surprise me Scotland are behaving the way they are when it comes to sticking together as the UK through this

You think she's a terrible leader just because she disagrees with Boris. She's trying to save lives ffs.

Pathetic.


But hey we're now over 40k deaths, Boris ladddd!!!!

UK coronavirus death toll passes 40,000, official figures say