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David O'Day

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Looking at Sunaks comments he says he wants the employers to start to help with the costs of paying the employee.

What happens is an employer says no?

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PVA

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can you show me a Yougov poll that evidences this

Seeing as you asked so nicely

Yougov shows Johnson's net approval rating falling dramatically, and now one point lower than Starmer.

Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?

Well: 57% (-9)
Badly: 35% (+9)
Net +22 (-18)


Do you think Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?

Well: 40%
Badly: 17%
Net: +23


Boris Johnson approval rating

Keir Starmer approval rating


Look forward to this being ignored or deflected
 

shmmeee

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Seeing as you asked so nicely

Yougov shows Johnson's net approval rating falling dramatically, and now one point lower than Starmer.

Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?

Well: 57% (-9)
Badly: 35% (+9)
Net +22 (-18)


Do you think Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?

Well: 40%
Badly: 17%
Net: +23


Boris Johnson approval rating

Keir Starmer approval rating


Look forward to this being ignored or deflected

Missed this. I was looking at the popularity ratings. Good work.
 

David O'Day

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Seeing as you asked so nicely

Yougov shows Johnson's net approval rating falling dramatically, and now one point lower than Starmer.

Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?

Well: 57% (-9)
Badly: 35% (+9)
Net +22 (-18)


Do you think Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?

Well: 40%
Badly: 17%
Net: +23


Boris Johnson approval rating

Keir Starmer approval rating


Look forward to this being ignored or deflected
Haha

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David O'Day

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Anyway.

It looks like the government want to reduce the amount they pay anyway as they are asking the employer to start to pay part of this furlough wage. So if it does go.to.60 percent government and 20 percent employer if they employer can't pay their part what happens?

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Ring Of Steel

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Anyway.

It looks like the government want to reduce the amount they pay anyway as they are asking the employer to start to pay part of this furlough wage. So if it does go.to.60 percent government and 20 percent employer if they employer can't pay their part what happens?

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Are they asking or are they telling?
 

David O'Day

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Are they asking or are they telling?
Not sure it's ambiguous

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Grendel

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Nope. At its height the public sector employed just over 7m people in 1979, half a million fewer than are currently claiming furlough alone.

They aren’t employed by the public sector.and if you follow your conclusion then you are saying Mr Johnson is a socialist
 

Grendel

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Seeing as you asked so nicely

Yougov shows Johnson's net approval rating falling dramatically, and now one point lower than Starmer.

Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?

Well: 57% (-9)
Badly: 35% (+9)
Net +22 (-18)


Do you think Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?

Well: 40%
Badly: 17%
Net: +23


Boris Johnson approval rating

Keir Starmer approval rating


Look forward to this being ignored or deflected

That’s the highest popularity of a sitting prime minister in history and at a time of national crises. Your crushing disappointment is round the corner
 

Ring Of Steel

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If the employer says no does the employee become redundant or does the government just continue to pay them at 80 percent?

If it's the latter a lot of employers will just be bastards and refuse

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I guess nobody knows yet. Very confusing.
 

chiefdave

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If the employer says no does the employee become redundant or does the government just continue to pay them at 80 percent?

If it's the latter a lot of employers will just be bastards and refuse
Not everyone who is on furlough is currently getting 80% that's what they're getting if their employer refuses to pay the remaining 20%

Does that mean if the government are going to ask for a further 20% and the employer refuses those employers drop to 60% anyway?

Would like to see something around job sharing brought in. At my company there's multiple people in the same role and about 50% of the staff furloughed. Could the scheme be adjusted so rather than furloughing one person and the other working full time as usual both work half a week?
 

David O'Day

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So you went for option B, deflect.
Also wrong, that is not the highest approval rating ever for a sitting pm. It is not even Johnson's highest approval rating hence it has gone down.

Cleatus doesn't understand maths.

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Grendel

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So you went for option B, deflect.

No its a factual statement - why have you ignored my comments on Sturgeon and her links to the Salmond scandal?
 

Grendel

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Also wrong, that is not the highest approval rating ever for a sitting pm. It is not even Johnson's highest approval rating hence it has gone down.

Cleatus doesn't understand maths.

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I though you had me on ignore Charles?
 

David O'Day

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Not everyone who is on furlough is currently getting 80% that's what they're getting if their employer refuses to pay the remaining 20%

Does that mean if the government are going to ask for a further 20% and the employer refuses those employers drop to 60% anyway?

Would like to see something around job sharing brought in. At my company there's multiple people in the same role and about 50% of the staff furloughed. Could the scheme be adjusted so rather than furloughing one person and the other working full time as usual both work half a week?
Yes employers can top up to 100 percent as city are doing.

The fact it us worded as "start" makes it sound like they are going to ask the employers to pay part of the 80 percent furlough pay.

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David O'Day

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David has really rattled Grendel hasn’t he. This Charles Darwin stuff is very sad.
I quoted Charles Darwin, I have never said I made up the quote.

As is said at the end of american history x why say something when some one has already said it better.

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Grendel

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I quoted Charles Darwin, I have never said I made up the quote.

As is said at the end of american history x why say something when some one has already said it better.

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And lets be honest Charles someone will always say it better than you
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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How has he rattled me David?
Back to your usual schtick of coming up with conspiracy theories about how everyone is the same person?

The fact that you’ve committed so hard to this weird Charles Darwin bit, which is neither particularly clever or witty, would suggest that you are incredibly rattled and are desperately searching for some mud to sling.
 

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