Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (192 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

Other half has been up coughing all night. Now I’m 95% confident she just has a cough/cold/other illness but probably better to be safe about it. Gov portal for testing just says “we are very busy, please try again later”. Is that how it’s tended to be when others have tried to book?

Home testing only available in cv3

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

Well I've downloaded the app anyway. It does contact tracing!

NHS Covid-19 app: One million downloads of contact tracer for England and Wales

Users are being urged to install the app to protect themselves and others against the resurgent virus.

www.bbc.co.uk

Reduces my risk of getting it and my risk of spreading it so I’ll do my bit

 

[shmmeee]

Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently

 

[David O'Day]

Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently

earlsdon innit

 

[fernandopartridge]

Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently

I think it's the same for the whole of the Midlands

 

[CCFCSteve]

Then we make do, I'm lucky enough to work from home but I feel for people who can't.

Appreciate what you’re saying but again this is where the governments messaging has been poor....it’s not that it’s suddenly dangerous to go to work (although for some jobs ie high/close public interaction ie supermarkets it is obviously a higher risk of contageon than others) unless you/your close family are higher risk...the advice/measures are solely to try to slow the spread down again

unfortunately as I say the messaging/reasoning hasn’t been the clearest, then the media/social media whip your further panic and we end up with people locking themselves away (and not getting treatments for more serious diseases/illnesses, getting mental health issues etc etc)

 

[David O'Day]

I think it's the same for the whole of the Midlands

cv3 is medium

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently

CV3 is medium risk. Don't all you CV5'ers start coming over here with your infections.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I won’t get into the whole testing discussion again. We should have a bit more capacity by now and I believe the government should be working on a referral system online or through 111 again (those with obvious Covid symptoms and/or that have been in close contact with someone who has Covid) not everyone just trying to book a test themselves !

It goes without saying that if everyone is trying to get a test for Covid like symptoms (some similar to cold) no capacity will be enough over autumn/winter.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I don't really think pertaining risk profiles to individual postcodes in densely population cities makes all that much sense. I'd suggest it should have two levels, Coventry is a high risk place due to having some high risk areas. CV3 is a medium risk in itself but people must exercise caution. The virus doesn't understand postcode boundaries and people don't tend to live, work and socialise within them either.

 

[SBAndy]

Other half has been up coughing all night. Now I’m 95% confident she just has a cough/cold/other illness but probably better to be safe about it. Gov portal for testing just says “we are very busy, please try again later”. Is that how it’s tended to be when others have tried to book?

Well, after 2 and a bit hours of refreshing, appointments appeared. A fair few of them as well. Seems that it’s not just an 8pm release, so credit where it’s due I suppose.

 

[David O'Day]

I don't really think pertaining risk profiles to individual postcodes in densely population cities makes all that much sense. I'd suggest it should have two levels, Coventry is a high risk place due to having some high risk areas. CV3 is a medium risk in itself but people must exercise caution. The virus doesn't understand postcode boundaries and people don't tend to live, work and socialise within them either.

Nah we're just gonna take a pitchfork to any c**t from Earlsdon who comes our way!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not surprising i suppose given his background, but naïve at best to not dispose of it, given his role!

Revealed: Sir Patrick Vallance has £600,000 shareholding in firm contracted to develop vaccines

Government denies claims of potential conflict of interest, maintaining he is not involved in commercial decisions on coronavirus vaccines

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently

Cv3 medium

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I don't really think pertaining risk profiles to individual postcodes in densely population cities makes all that much sense. I'd suggest it should have two levels, Coventry is a high risk place due to having some high risk areas. CV3 is a medium risk in itself but people must exercise caution. The virus doesn't understand postcode boundaries and people don't tend to live, work and socialise within them either.

I’ll pass it on

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I’ll pass it on

And even then the benefits are still massive in terms of reducing the change of catching it and more importantly passing it on

 

[Ian1779]

Amazing.....

 

[clint van damme]

Nah we're just gonna take a pitchfork to any c**t from Earlsdon who comes our way!

Time to cut us adrift - we're gonna build a wall, and we're gonna get all the reprobates who come drinking in our pubs at the weekend to pay for it!

 

[shmmeee]

Amazing.....

Don’t see the issue TBF. Of course only phones with modern tech can support the latest features.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Don’t see the issue TBF. Of course only phones with modern tech can support the latest features.

Aye, that's why the app isn't the only solution. Traditional T&T + an app. Same with any other health tech.

 

[David O'Day]

Don’t see the issue TBF. Of course only phones with modern tech can support the latest features.

You would think that if you need most people to be able to use the app you would make it so it works on the widest range of phones so yes I see a problem.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

And even then the benefits are still massive in terms of reducing the change of catching it and more importantly passing it on

Their response
Yes I agree but I think they went for simplicity and the idea that you might feel you have more influence over your more local postcode - a "tell your neighbours" principle. I think there's a "smoothing" function over the risk scores so that each postcode's risk is affected by those near to it.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Sunaks support for business that CAN trade seems a bit patchy....some good, some inadequate....

BUT unless I've missed it, He offers the square root of fuck-all for businesses & sectors who can't currently trade.... WTF?

 

[David O'Day]

So the wage top scheme means the state will pay a maximum of 22% of salary towards it being the onus is on the employer to pick up the slack.

Can see the bloodbath of job loses being that much effected by this.

 

[shmmeee]

You would think that if you need most people to be able to use the app you would make it so it works on the widest range of phones so yes I see a problem.

You want the government to nip round everyone’s house and upgrade the hardware in their phone to be capable? Or just not release an app at all?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

You want the government to nip round everyone’s house and upgrade the hardware in their phone to be capable? Or just not release an app at all?

It’s something to do with the way Bluetooth works on the iPhone 6 and before

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You want the government to nip round everyone’s house and upgrade the hardware in their phone to be capable? Or just not release an app at all?

I suppose that hinges on whether the app is actually useful at the levels who will take it up, and that level will obviously be less, the less people who are able to take it up.

Now I don't have the answers to that, so I'm not going to comment either way...

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I suppose that hinges on whether the app is actually useful at the levels who will take it up, and that level will obviously be less, the less people who are able to take it up.

Now I don't have the answers to that, so I'm not going to comment either way...

Even at 15 % it’s effective but not as effective. It’s one of those things if you can convince your networks to use it it will reduce your risk or getting it or passing it on

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Even at 15 % it’s effective but not as effective. It’s one of those things if you can convince your networks to use it it will reduce your risk or getting it or passing it on

Have to say... my networks (parents and many work colleagues) aren't able to download it, because their phone technology is too out of date!

Looks like I'll be bluetoothing away to myself, and Mrs Wisdom (not sure if her phone can do it until she gets home from work!!)

Obviously if out it may have a use.

 

[David O'Day]

You want the government to nip round everyone’s house and upgrade the hardware in their phone to be capable? Or just not release an app at all?

no but phones from 2015 can use qr codes and have bluetooth so you can simplify the process for them

 

[fernandopartridge]

So the wage top scheme means the state will pay a maximum of 22% of salary towards it being the onus is on the employer to pick up the slack.

Can see the bloodbath of job loses being that much effected by this.

It sounds an overly complex scheme that will end up impacting the poorest the most, do virtually nothing to protect employment and lead to widespread destitution.

 

[David O'Day]

I suppose that hinges on whether the app is actually useful at the levels who will take it up, and that level will obviously be less, the less people who are able to take it up.

Now I don't have the answers to that, so I'm not going to comment either way...

exactly you need to try and make the app usable by the most people possible

 

[David O'Day]

It sounds an overly complex scheme that will end up impacting the poorest the most, do virtually nothing to protect employment and lead to widespread destitution.

it's also 2bn more expensive than the furlough scheme

 

[shmmeee]

Their choice was use the tech for those that can or don’t use tech at all. There’s no method to do this type of app on older devices.

Looking at the stats you’re talking maybe 5% of users on iPhone 6 or before, not sure about Android as stats are harder to come across.

 

[shmmeee]

exactly you need to try and make the app usable by the most people possible

That’s exactly what they’ve done. It’s not possible to make the app usable by any more people.