Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (210 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

over 40% information is missing, that lot adds up to 58.4%

Also that guy is popular- 45 unread messages

It shows hospitality may account for 23.6 of all possible contacts while ignoring 2 settings that could also add up to 41.6% of contacts.

Also as you have to check into hospitality and give names etc it is easier to count these contacts than supermarkets etc where you don't know who anyone else so unless the person testing positive has the app and there are people with the app in the there they will go untracked and uncounted.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

It shows hospitality may account for 23.6 of all possible contacts while ignoring 2 settings that could also add up to 41.6% of contacts.

Also as you have to check into hospitality and give names etc it is easier to count these contacts than supermarkets etc where you don't know who anyone else so unless the person testing positive has the app and there are people with the app in the there they will go untracked and uncounted.

It’s about ruining people’s businesses and livelihoods while also removing anything enjoyable from day to day life. Sure fire way to maintain compliance

 

[David O'Day]

Basically the whole point of that slide is to make hospitality look like the largest source of potential infection.

Also contacts reached is now below 70%

 

[Deleted member 5849]

As an aside (and it's my phone's fault, rather than the app) I keep getting warned that tracing isn't turned on when my phone has gone into standby mode. Given that's the mode it'll be in whenever I'm out among the public, I'd suggest it won't be that useful...

 

[David O'Day]

As an aside (and it's my phone's fault, rather than the app) I keep getting warned that tracing isn't turned on when my phone has gone into standby mode. Given that's the mode it'll be in whenever I'm out among the public, I'd suggest it won't be that useful...

world beating

 

[Deleted member 5849]

world beating

Like I said, tbf it's my phone that's anything but world beating in this instance.

Blame OnePlus!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

1,600 more students in Newcastle test positive for Covid-19

The latest data on the outbreak was revealed on the day that both universities move most of their teaching online in response to rising Covid-19 numbers

www.chroniclelive.co.uk

 

[fernandopartridge]

I've got the app and twice have had an exposure alert but can't find anywhere to look up further info in relation to it

 

[CCFCSteve]

I've got the app and twice have had an exposure alert but can't find anywhere to look up further info in relation to it

Yeah, snap. Couple of newspaper articles on it today though. It’s a glitch generated by Apple/Google’s underlying framework. Nothing to worry about (unless app tells you to self isolate)

 

[Saddlebrains]

This has been said by numerous experts for a while now

 

[Kieranp96]

This has been said by numerous experts for a while now

And that's why it's spreading so fast but all it takes is one wrong mutation and boom, it starts killing more people.

 

[Saddlebrains]

And that's why it's spreading so fast but all it takes is one wrong mutation and boom, it starts killing more people.

But this is the point I've been trying to make. As has @Brighton Sky Blue

We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

They say europe is 3- 4 weeks ahead of us.

Still over there the deaths are minimal. No hospitals over run. A second tightening of restrictions surely cant be the right way to deal with it?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

But this is the point I've been trying to make. As has @Brighton Sky Blue

We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

They say europe is 3- 4 weeks ahead of us.

Still over there the deaths are minimal. No hospitals over run. A second tightening of restrictions surely cant be the right way to deal with it?

To be fair I think 80% is an overestimate but it’s at least 40-45%. As time goes on we are going to have to accept that this virus is in the community and people will go off with it as they already do with common illnesses. All I want to know specifically is when I’ll be allowed out of my box to give someone a sheet

 

[SBT]

The mindset of the people who question what "the real truth" is and think its all a scam to control them is nuts

This is nothing, only last year there were troops in uniform all around my neighbourhood demanding passers-by hand over money. I wasn't even looking to buy a poppy.

 

[Kieranp96]

But this is the point I've been trying to make. As has @Brighton Sky Blue

We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

They say europe is 3- 4 weeks ahead of us.

Still over there the deaths are minimal. No hospitals over run. A second tightening of restrictions surely cant be the right way to deal with it?

We are averaging more cases per day than anywhere in Europe now, they predicted wrong, deaths are climbing slowly and so are people on ventalators

 

[fernandopartridge]

But this is the point I've been trying to make. As has @Brighton Sky Blue

We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

They say europe is 3- 4 weeks ahead of us.

Still over there the deaths are minimal. No hospitals over run. A second tightening of restrictions surely cant be the right way to deal with it?

It's rather selective as it is only looking at symptoms on the day of the test itself

 

[Saddlebrains]

We are averaging more cases per day than anywhere in Europe now, they predicted wrong, deaths are climbing slowly and so are people on ventalators

And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

See attached

 

[Kieranp96]

And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

See attached

I don't think we will hit the heights of the last wave but at the same time I know the risk are still there, if it gets into the elderly deaths will sky rocket.

 

[Saddlebrains]

It's rather selective as it is only looking at symptoms on the day of the test itself

Agree, but this isn't the only study to have been done to show this we've had them posted on this thread before.




On a serious note where is @SkyBlueDom26 ?

Not seen him on here for ages

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Nottingham at 680 odd per 100000.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Agree, but this isn't the only study to have been done to show this we've had them posted on this thread before.




On a serious note where is @SkyBlueDom26 ?

Not seen him on here for ages

As said in the other thread, I PM'd him earlier in September to see how he was but he didn't reply.

 

[chiefdave]

This is interesting



Weird that no trace for workplace nor public transport though
In fact, not just weird but convenient for these mendacious cunts

Am I reading that right? In a country with 561,815 confirmed cases they're using a sample of 408 people?

Don't think they should take out work and education settings. The fact they have no intention of shutting them or putting restrictions in place is irrelevant. You can still show the data and justify your decisions.

What does "exposure groups for eating out, supermarkets, other shopping and holidays have been aggregated" mean? They're all listed individually in the table.

 

[Saddlebrains]

As said in the other thread, I PM'd him earlier in September to see how he was but he didn't reply.

Thats not good.

@Nick Is there anyway you can see any last log in etc? He seemed down before he left

 

[Ring Of Steel]

And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

See attached

Explain that- “the knock on effect of this virus is now becoming worse than the virus”.

What are the ‘knock on effects’ that are worse than the deaths, I’d be fascinated to hear your view.

 

[Kieranp96]

Thats not good.

@Nick Is there anyway you can see any last log in etc? He seemed down before he left

He was last seen 20th September.

 

[Saddlebrains]

He was last seen 20th September.

Dont like that

 

[fernandopartridge]

And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

See attached

That is not minimal deaths by any means, and its 77 within an arbitrary 28 days of infection, there will have been around 20% more than that.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Thats not good.

@Nick Is there anyway you can see any last log in etc? He seemed down before he left

As a young lad you'd hope it'd be easier to find him on socials. Must be someone who knows him out of here?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Back everyone, just needed a break for a bit but things are all good now back to work the first week of November! Thanks everyone anyway

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Agree, but this isn't the only study to have been done to show this we've had them posted on this thread before.




On a serious note where is @SkyBlueDom26 ?

Not seen him on here for ages

Back mate hope you are well

 

[fernandopartridge]

As a young lad you'd hope it'd be easier to find him on socials. Must be someone who knows him out of here?

He's been online in the last few days

 

[chiefdave]

Back everyone, just needed a break for a bit but things are all good now back to work the first week of November! Thanks everyone anyway

Good to hear things are looking a bit better for you.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Back mate hope you are well

Good to see you back, all good this end

 

[Ian1779]

And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

See attached

Do you not think that the ‘reduced’ deaths is due to the actions around the wearing of masks, social distancing and other actions where people indoors are generally more spaced out, that we’re not embedded as normal practice in April and May.

But if we let the infection rate keep growing as it is, it will eventually get into the places where it can do some serious damage.

 

[chiefdave]

We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?

And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

What do you think will happen to those with cancer, alzheimers etc if things are opened up and the NHS rapidly becomes overwhelmed?

People seem to have quickly forgotten the footage from a few months ago in places like New York showing bodies being piled up in refrigerated trucks and rotting corpses in overwhelmed funeral homes. They are already moving all non-covid patients out of hospitals in Paris as they struggle to cope with the increasing hospitalisations.