Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (8 Viewers)

Ian1779

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And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

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Do you not think that the ‘reduced’ deaths is due to the actions around the wearing of masks, social distancing and other actions where people indoors are generally more spaced out, that we’re not embedded as normal practice in April and May.

But if we let the infection rate keep growing as it is, it will eventually get into the places where it can do some serious damage.
 

chiefdave

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We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?

And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.
What do you think will happen to those with cancer, alzheimers etc if things are opened up and the NHS rapidly becomes overwhelmed?

People seem to have quickly forgotten the footage from a few months ago in places like New York showing bodies being piled up in refrigerated trucks and rotting corpses in overwhelmed funeral homes. They are already moving all non-covid patients out of hospitals in Paris as they struggle to cope with the increasing hospitalisations.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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What do you think will happen to those with cancer, alzheimers etc if things are opened up and the NHS rapidly becomes overwhelmed?

People seem to have quickly forgotten the footage from a few months ago in places like New York showing bodies being piled up in refrigerated trucks and rotting corpses in overwhelmed funeral homes. They are already moving all non-covid patients out of hospitals in Paris as they struggle to cope with the increasing hospitalisations.

What are we using the Nightingale hospitals for at the moment?
 

shmmeee

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Only half way through this, it’s a long old read, but absolutely fascinating and terrifying in equal measures. Just arrogance and fuck ups as far as the eye can see.

 

fernandopartridge

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Only half way through this, it’s a long old read, but absolutely fascinating and terrifying in equal measures. Just arrogance and fuck ups as far as the eye can see.

D'Ancona another arse hole hack who rubbished the opposition back in December.
 

hill83

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Back everyone, just needed a break for a bit but things are all good now back to work the first week of November! Thanks everyone anyway

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Marty

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Got sent home from work yesterday as a mate I have been in contact with is a confirmed case, feel completely fine, no symptoms at all, sent my mum out for some food for me which she left on my door step (bless her). Second time in isolation now, got plenty to keep me occupied, I was looking at one of the lego sets (International space station) the other day for myself while I was looking for a gift. should give me a few hours of fun
 

wingy

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It's said only 20% are isolating.
Here's a story .
From mate's wife.
Jacked her job last week at a Ball hill hair salon.
Boss came back from Spanish holiday didn't isolate went to work all week.
This week tested positive.
Another employee also has jacked after said boss messaged her to open up and not say anything.
Someone in my family has just been for a test.
Turnaround about 2-3 hrs from asking.
 

shmmeee

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Why is all of the focus on shutting pubs when the majority is students?

The one thing I would say for shutting pubs is that it probably switches something in people’s minds. Lots of “if pubs are open why can’t I do X?” Type questions at the moment.

The student thing is funny. They can’t exactly go back on it now as you’re just getting a bunch of people infected then sending them round the country. They never should’ve opened them in the first place but the landlords wouldn’t have been happy.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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t's said only 20% are isolating.

Sounds about right.
I know of several examples of folks not isolating, & many more of students not isolating despite testing positive.
I know of a fella who isolated whilst caring for & sharing a bed with his Mrs. who was positive with bad symptoms...he never caught it!
I've also heard of people getting told incorrectly to isolate via the App due to bluetooth connecting through internal walls & ceilings etc.


Anyhow, its nearly that time of day...I'll be off shortly to get my winter coat on so I can stand 2 metres away from my mates in a windy wet beer garden for a few scoops.....probably be illegal up here next week.

Happy Friday folks.
 

chiefdave

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Employees who work for UK firms forced to shut by law because of coronavirus restrictions will get two-thirds of their wages paid for by the government.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak said it was an "expansion" of the Job Support Scheme, which begins on 1 November and will be available for six months.
This is good news at face value at least. Will be interesting to see more details of this as they become available.

The cynic in me is drawn to the phrase "firms forced to shut by law". How does that work for, as an example, a wedding venue who has had all their bookings postponed. Legally weddings can still happen but with limited numbers, would they be covered? And then of course how will they deal with the knock on effect. To use the same example there's no law stopping a florist working but if they are a wedding specialist they won't have any orders, are they included?
 

clint van damme

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Why is all of the focus on shutting pubs when the majority is students?

my sister has tested positive, got her results yesterday. A couple of days previous she text me and said it's becoming rife again. She's a nurse but doesn't work on the 'front line'. Looks after kids with complex care needs.
 

Nick

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The one thing I would say for shutting pubs is that it probably switches something in people’s minds. Lots of “if pubs are open why can’t I do X?” Type questions at the moment.

The student thing is funny. They can’t exactly go back on it now as you’re just getting a bunch of people infected then sending them round the country. They never should’ve opened them in the first place but the landlords wouldn’t have been happy.

Yeah you cant send them back now, so they need to all be locked up.

Not sure why pubs are the scapegoat when infections are happening a lot more elsewhere.

How much has testing increased by?
 

chiefdave

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How much has testing increased by?
Aren't some unis doing their own testing? If they're testing everyone then its not a surprise the numbers have shot up as we know there's loads of people who get it and don't show symptoms so would never normally get a test.

Although I'm not sure how many tests they can be doing given that it was only a couple of weeks ago it was being claimed the whole country had reached the capacity for processing tests and it would take weeks to add any more.
 

Kieranp96

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Looking at the testing figures the UK has tested more than double every other EU country, and compare our testing to the likes of Mexico and South American country's you can see how bad they have it 🙄.
 

clint van damme

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Yeah you cant send them back now, so they need to all be locked up.

Not sure why pubs are the scapegoat when infections are happening a lot more elsewhere.

How much has testing increased by?

the government are saying 30% of cases are down to pubs and restaurants, hardly scapegoating if true.
 
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Sweden's minister for Higher Education said:
If you go to a party and get infected, you put those close to you [at risk]. Your friends, your professor, the staff at your local supermarket, the person next to you in the library,
 

Nick

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If you go to a party and get infected, you put those close to you [at risk]. Your friends, your professor, the staff at your local supermarket, the person next to you in the library,

That isn't just parties though is it?

Especially if you are still coming into contact with your friends, professor, people in the library and people in shops.
 
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That isn't just parties though is it?

Especially if you are still coming into contact with your friends, professor, people in the library and people in shops.
The point being, there's been a lot of talk, on this board and elsewhere, about just let students get it as they won't be affected.

But that completely misses the fact others may well be.
 

wingy

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If 70% of school and workplace followed by in the home, who knows

But it was said Schools opening may result in another sector being turned off, should/when a spike results.
 

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