Brighton Sky Blue
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Presume it’s Scotland letting the side down jacking off Sturgeon for being the slowest
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Presume it’s Scotland letting the side down jacking off Sturgeon for being the slowest
To be fair (I hate to say it as we share the same opinion of her) they have upped their game with 53k yesterday
Edit - I tell a lie(ish), they didn’t post any numbers for the day before so average of c27k per day for past two days
Brighton Sky Blue
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Which is fair enough I just get pissed off with her approval ratings for making little tweaks to Johnson’s moves and being behind the rest of the UK on vaccines that Westminster procured ahead of anyone else
David O'Day
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The EU have enacted rules that means vaccine exports basically have to be approve
Brighton Sky Blue
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Making Remainers like me burn through the goodwill pretty quick
she’s a sneaky one (a good ‘politician’ in that sense). She has chosen to apply slightly stricter measures all the way through (knowing public opinion supports her....and the UK will probably pick up the tab)
David O'Day
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we'd do exactly the same
fernandopartridge
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Trump like protectionism
David O'Day
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it's very opposite, protectionism seeks to limit imports
hill83
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Their conduct is just making me cringe now to be honest. I know people (rightly) said if Johnson broke the WA it would damage our reputation internationally (although I think we all felt it was probably a negotiation tactic)... I think their current conduct is that multiplied by ten (let’s hope it’s also only a negotiation tactic and not implemented ie exports stopped)
The fact is whichever side of the brexit debate we were all on their our nearest neighbours and ultimately we should all be on the same side. I think they will regret this but ultimately as I’ve alluded to earlier I think maybe there is more at play/stake here ie look at the spread of the vaccines across the EU countries, it’s not been an equal split so far
David O'Day
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why is anyone shocked the eu is only interested in the interests of the eu?
chiefdave
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I don't think anyone is shocked at that. Every country is of course acting in their best interests. But every country is struggling to get the amount of doses they ordered and they aren't all storming into manufacturing facilities or trying to block doses reaching other countries.
fernandopartridge
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Oh yes, it's definitely the opposite of protectionism which is to allow unrestrained international trade. LOL
hill83
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Who's shocked? Beautiful sidestep though to slightly change the angle of your point.
fernandopartridge
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That's fair enough, but if they've signed a piss poor contract with AZ which is unenforceable, they should not be using legislation to otherwise restrain AZ's ability to export its goods. It is a massive overreach.
Im more concerned if they stop exports of Pfizer that again, other nations acquired ahead of them.
This could unravel badly. Let’s just hope they see sense and don’t actually stop any vaccines being exported
Sky Blue Pete
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Always worries me when no deaths are announced on John Hopkins
brother in laws dad and friend from church both in itu at uhcw
Friend from church wife died last week heart attack after severe Covid. Praying their kids don’t lose both mum and dad in a fortnight
only mid 50’s. Kids in their 20’s bless them
Feeling emotional
brother in laws dad and friend from church both in itu at uhcw
Friend from church wife died last week heart attack after severe Covid. Praying their kids don’t lose both mum and dad in a fortnight
only mid 50’s. Kids in their 20’s bless them
Feeling emotional
David O'Day
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Protectionism as I said the act of seeking to limit imports to "protect" manufacturers of a country i.e. Trump increasing tariffs on Chinese imports.
The EU are seeking to limited exports not imports.
Ian1779
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It’s because it’s not fucking lockdown. Although schools in general are not open to majority of students the average for Primary is anywhere between 30% and 50% depending on region (I have school colleagues that send their kids into school even though they work at home every day bar one day in 2 weeks) Shit employers are forcing their employees into the office for no good reason. Not to mention public transport being packed in certain places/times and it may go to explain the stubbornness of the positive cases.
fernandopartridge
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The EU regs being drawn up to block exports have to be enacted at the discretion of a member state. I doubt very much an individual state would be as silly so as to apply it.
Really hope alls ok mate. Fingers crossed
David O'Day
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Change? This was a direct reply to you and BSB.
fernandopartridge
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TBH case numbers got so high, 81k by specimen date on 29th Dec, so with R around or just below 1 it is going to take some time for that number to fall
David O'Day
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Really? Belgium will
David O'Day
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France probably as well
Ian1779
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Do you think it not being a proper lockdown will drag this along further?
chiefdave
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Its not even just down to shit employers, its down to parents who can't be bothered to look after their own kids.
We had a team meeting yesterday and several people who are working from home 100% of the time spoke about how their kids were in nursery or school as they'd managed to get their partner classed as an essential worker and apparently it only needs one parent to qualify.
chiefdave
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Does anyone really see them going through with the threat to block exports. Imagine you're the country whose order is blocked because the EU want to jump the queue, are you just going to shrug your shoulders and say OK. Look what happened when there was even a rumour that India was planning to do similar, huge pressure was put on them and they very quickly had to come out and say it wouldn't happen.
People definitely playing the game this time (not going to point fingers as it can’t be easy for anyone). The key workers list is ridiculous which is governments fault
Ian1779
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I know - 2 areas where transmission was far less...Fair point Ian...boozers and gyms are shut though...two key components in my life
hill83
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Making it as if being shocked about what’s happening makes a difference or not.
Hopefully unlikely. Wouldn’t put it past macron if he’s under pressure
fernandopartridge
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Undoubtedly but do think it'd be slow regardless. There were 81542 cases by specimen date as of 29th Dec. 29544 last Fridaym (22nd Jan) which is a reduction of 63% in 24 days.
Look at the data from the first proper lockdown, 7th April peak at 5437. It wasn't until 17th May that cases dropped by 63% from that figure.
That said, not a particularly exact science as the acuity of the cases in the numbers from the first peak is entirely different to those from the second.