Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (9 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

No just thought it was worth pointing out that the DUP are kicking off about something they've been trying for weeks.

Wouldn't expect anything else from those hypocritical weasels though.

I'm not sure what you've said about Foster is right.
Yes, many unionists wanted it invoked but they've been giving Foster shit for not backing their stance. Though far be it from me to defend the old boot.

 

---

[PVA]

They were trying to get a block on vaccines reaching Britain through NI? Eh?

No nothing to do with vaccines, but they have been trying to invoke it for weeks.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No as you were painting them as unhappy at everything the EU has done.

I wasn't but ok

 

[fernandopartridge]

They are unhappy with the invoking of article 16 which puts a temp hard border in Ireland.

That is what they are unhappy with

That's not the EU's handling of course

 

[David O'Day]

I wasn't but ok

Ok but need loads more dragons

 

[David O'Day]

That's not the EU's handling of course

You're having a mare sadly.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Ok but need loads more dragons

The EU's most recent 'handling' is to re-invoke the hard border

Dublin don't like it

There is no attempt to claim that the ROI is dissatisfied with everything done

 

[CCFCSteve]

What can we do though if they take the next step from the controls they have enacted today?

Not sure there is much we can do but you would expect some strongly worded statements around breach of trust etc, probably legal action against Pfizer (assuming they blocked Pfizer export) and/or EU (not sure of the international law/how it impacts trade agreement so don’t quote me though) and it would lead to us and potentially other nations refusing to export vaccines to the EU due to trust being broken. Who knows though. Let’s hope it doesn’t get that far

 

[David O'Day]

You just said their handling no reference to recent.

Anyway moving on

 

[fernandopartridge]

You're having a mare sadly.

You are, you're trying to misrepresent people to get one of your little victories. Keep trying Dave

 

[fernandopartridge]

Not sure there is much we can do but you would expect some strongly worded statements around breach of trust etc, probably legal action against Pfizer (assuming they blocked Pfizer export) and/or EU (not sure of the international law/how it impacts trade agreement so don’t quote me though) and it would lead to us and potentially other nations refusing to export vaccines to the EU due to trust being broken. Who knows though. Let’s hope it doesn’t get that far

Retaliatory controls would be a mistake

 

[CCFCSteve]

Retaliatory controls would be a mistake

100%. I was responding to DODs reply asking what we could do in response anyway, so was more hypothesising. Should’ve used the word possibly not probably. Who knows though and as I say hopefully it would never come to that.

Ps might also depend on impact to our roll out strategy, if it’s not significant then would definitely just sit tight.

 

[jordan210]

even the Archbishop getting involved

 

[Grendel]

This is hilarious - where’s Mart these days

 

[jordan210]

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

This is hilarious - where’s Mart these days

His successor is not a great tribute act

 

[hill83]

Where will this all go next. Complete and utter carnage.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Where will this all go next. Complete and utter carnage.

If I didn't know better I'd say they're hoping for retaliation to get the member states someone to vent at besides themselves.

 

[Grendel]

Where will this all go next. Complete and utter carnage.

It’s safe to say we would never be allowed back in the club - the snarling embittered federalist movement that the EU always has been is exposed for all to see - the latest threat over Ireland given its pretend concern over the GFA is genuinely disgraceful

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Where will this all go next.

On a practical level, make sure those who've had one jab, get their second!

Shouldn't be squabbling over something so serious, though - there has to be a solution.

 

[Grendel]

On a practical level, make sure those who've had one jab, get their second!

Shouldn't be squabbling over something so serious, though - there has to be a solution.

Eu are a disgrace aren’t they?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Eu are a disgrace aren’t they?

It's ridiculous to be breaking Northern Ireland, yes.

 

[hill83]

I'm not one of these flagpoles in the sand won't change my mind no matter what sort of people and this is seriously pissing me off what's happening right now. Even taking vaccines out of it I hope it doesn't have further consequences in the future.

 

[Grendel]

It's ridiculous to be breaking Northern Ireland, yes.

Behaving with dignity otherwise?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Eu are a disgrace aren’t they?

It's an odd way of getting someone to comply with forfeiting a vaccine they ordered 3 months before you

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'm not one of these flagpoles in the sand won't change my mind no matter what sort of people and this is seriously pissing me off what's happening right now. Even taking vaccines out of it I hope it doesn't have further consequences in the future.

Agreed

 

[Otis]

Why you posting magnet pics dude

Better than him posting dick pics

 

[fernandopartridge]

Where will this all go next. Complete and utter carnage.

Can't go that far with it being lockdown n that

 

[David O'Day]

What can the UK do though? It would be madness to invoke article 16 themselves as that would be a Republicans wet dream and how can we take on a trading bloc the size of the EU.

Pfizer has mentioned maybe moving their production out of the EU but that isn't realistic as they are struggling to provide enough Vaccines anyway and really, really need the Sanofi plant in France they have signed up to product their vaccine.

The J+J vaccine is also made and developed in the EU by Janssens in Belgium.

I don't think the EU really think they will get any AZ UK produced Vaccines but they can give the UK a serious kicking.

Also it seems to be not just about the UK they left Russia and the US off their Vaccine control exemption list.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sturgeon attempting to suck up to EU by releasing the figures on supplies of vaccine allocated to Scotland. Cannot despise this woman and her cause any further, doesn't deserve half the poll numbers she gets.

 

[hill83]

Tbf just publish them. Why hide it? Fucking hate politics.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Sturgeon attempting to suck up to EU by releasing the figures on supplies of vaccine allocated to Scotland. Cannot despise this woman and her cause any further, doesn't deserve half the poll numbers she gets.

What an arsehole. She's actually just like the brexiteers she hates. It would be brilliant to see how exposed she would be should they gain independence.

BTW, I have absolutely nothing against independent Scotland conceptually but I don't believe her or the rest of the SNP are good faith actors.

 

[David O'Day]

Tbf just publish them. Why hide it? Fucking hate politics.

I agree with this, why not publish? The Uk doesn't have anything to hide

 

[stupot07]

The EU have backed down and now withdrawn article 16. Fuckwits

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

 

[hill83]

The EU have backed down and now withdrawn article 16. Fuckwits

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

They are putting it down to "an error".