Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (140 Viewers)
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jimmyhillsfanclub
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Err....they do mention it...and also comment that it was a mistake.
As far as the Beeb are concerned, If the right wing shouty brigade are constantly moaning about it being full of "wokey libtards" & the left wing shouty brigade are screaming "tory propaganda machine" then they're probably still doing their job quite well....
Oops! Apologies, I thought it was the Sunak self promotion video that was released yesterday.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Not sure about specific studies of the eat out scheme, but there is plenty of evidence that adults socialising in restaurants, bars, or worse, at home is a major driver of infections.
Part of the ONS report that found teachers are not at any greater risk than others going out to work mentioned that most of the teacher infections were contracted in the staff rooms, teacher to teacher.......kids generally offer less risk...the younger they are the further it falls.
David O'Day
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Nick
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Across the nation.
Oh yeah, obviously from a basic coronavirus safety POV it was an extremely risky move. It deliberately flew in the face of scientific wisdom, and the August/September case numbers obviously speak for themselves. I just find it interesting that it's now taken as gospel that Eat Out to Help Out was the big driver, and wondered if there was more to it than the UoW paper. (Considering how many other papers on other Covid topics have been completely ignored)
David O'Day
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I do like the backdoor Income Tax rise
Skybluefaz
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Fucking depressing, is this a levelling up budget?
David O'Day
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Seems all the best bits were in the trailer.
I wonder how many news outlets will even point out the backdoor Income Tax rise at all?
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Whcih tax rise are we talking here?
I see Corp. Tax is going up 6% to 25% in 2023......fucking hell...thats a kick in the balls & a punch in teeth for small little businesses like me.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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...meanwhile their dumb fascination of forever inflating the stupid housing bubble continues......
......stamp duty holidays, guarantees for banks to encourage more reckless lending on overpriced houses......like thats never had a bad ending before....fucking moronic.
......stamp duty holidays, guarantees for banks to encourage more reckless lending on overpriced houses......like thats never had a bad ending before....fucking moronic.
David O'Day
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Income Tax as freezing the lower threshold just means that as wages rise due to inflation the threshold stays the same so people pay more tax and people who didn't pay tax are then pushed into the tax paying bracket.
Also could corporation tax not be a progressive taxation like income tax? More you earn the more you pay?
profits below 50k will remain at 19% and then tapered between 50k and 250k profits. Over 250k profits is 25%
Skybluefaz
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People on low pay are going to suffer from that personal tax freeze.
That’s pretty much what he’s doing I think DOD
jimmyhillsfanclub
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David O'Day
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So it's going to fuck most businesses and reduce demand
Free market bullshit.
Like a fucking Ponzi scheme.
shmmeee
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Nah, they’re right wing economically and socially liberal, which is the opposite of the plurality of British voters. So everyone hates them depending on which they consider more important.
Like the TV version of the Lib Dems, hated by everyone for entirely rational reasons
you just said you wanted CT to be progressive ?!. It is
Think he mentioned the new full rate will apply to something like 10% of businesses (don’t quote me). Not seen the tapering yet but like that those making the largest profits have to pay a bit more as it still encourages start ups/small businesses
Sick Boy
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Bang on...
David O'Day
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Nothing for the NHS it seems
jimmyhillsfanclub
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They've already got a new badge....what more do they want.....the moon on a stick?
jimmyhillsfanclub
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...or the supermarkets?
Yeah, there was quite a bit mate. Some quite big stuff around investment. Wasn’t taking notes though so can’t tell you full detail (I’d be guessing some bits). Some interesting/different things....will wait to read some opinion pieces to see whether people in the know think they will be useful/good (some look positive though)
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David O'Day
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you just said you wanted CT to be progressive ?!. It is
Because it's going to punish a lot of smaller businesses.
Thus reduce demand which I'm not sure if you know isn't a great idea in a demand shock. If business making 95k a year then has to start paying more CT they will look to reduce other costs which is likely to be wages which then reduces demand.
Raise it for the big boys but start the tapering at a much higher level of profit.
Not that I heard. I was hoping there would be (felt like it would be right). I guess that partially ties into CT increase though
David O'Day
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Regarding Freeports, will the news mention that between 1984 and 2012 while being in the EU we had 7 freeports and the reason we currently don't have them is the Tories got rid of them.
Skybluefaz
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Pretty sure freeports won't benefit me too much. Council Tax on the rise, energy on the rise no increase in personal allowance = normal working people getting poorer.
Ian1779
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Nah... he’s waiting for Starmer to come up with it before stealing it
