Brighton Sky Blue
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If it's so low FFS let us return classrooms to normal
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If it's so low FFS let us return classrooms to normal
Sky Blue Pete
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Makes sense
Brylowes
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So is he saying that vaccines aren’t completely safe in adults,
skybluetony176
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I think he’s saying that they’re not approved for children as testing on children wasn’t a priority given that they’re less susceptible to the effects of Covid so at the moment the focus remains on adults being vaccinated.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Not at all, he’s saying you need to be certain of its effects on children before giving it to them.
Sky Blue Pete
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I think he’s saying that a fever and headache that many are experiencing is worse than the effects of Covid in u18
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well so is the common cold but no school kids were forced to be sent home because someone in their class had it
You aren't seriously comparing a common cold and Covid are you?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Sky Blue Pete
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Yep that’s a fair question. So if the reason was to avoid spreading Covid and now it’s not gonna have the same effect then things may well get back to normal
chiefdave
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Just saw this on my timeline. Should be some good data on the impact of opening up in the next few weeks! Are there any studies that have looked at states in the US that have opened everything up with very little in the way of restrictions and how they compare to states that have remained locked down?
David O'Day
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Bottom of article suggests still on track (to hit original deadlines) and it was one of a couple of scenarios, so finger crossed. Surprised numbers have dropped that low though, I thought AZ were knocking out around 2m per week, plus Pfizer and now Moderna coming on stream. J&J might be around in July as well.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I was also thinking Novavax is already in production and just waiting for final approval. Feels like a kick in the balls seeing headlines like that though.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Hopefully they’re holding off some of the ‘good vaccine news’ until it’s 100% certain.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Not sure about that, Zahawi got hopes up of doubling the rollout shortly before it got scrapped. Pretty nervous about it.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Im Envious....49, turn 50 in a few months.....still waiting for the call.
Skybluefaz
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Over 4000 deaths in a single day in Brazil. That is terrible.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Just to share a frustration really, but last week not long after I got home from work, I received a whatsapp telling me they were giving away the pfizer jab at the local mosque on a 1st come 1st served basis to use up surplus supply......it was until 6pm or when they ran out...whichever came first.
As it was already 6pm by the time I got the message, and I'd just got out of the shower & had yet to eat my tea, I didn't bother based upon the suspicion it would be a wasted journey.......turns out the cut off was about 6.30pm so it probably would have been....
Now, the good selfless me is just pleased that the vaccine was not wasted......However the self-centred me is pissed off that this ad-hoc free-for-all was basically just allowed to leak out via NHS workers private whatsapp groups, which started at 2.00pm when they realised most of the demographic booked in were going to be no-shows.....and resulted in a huge queue of people around the block being disgruntled at being turned away.....
Anyway.....thats my morning moan out of the way.
As it was already 6pm by the time I got the message, and I'd just got out of the shower & had yet to eat my tea, I didn't bother based upon the suspicion it would be a wasted journey.......turns out the cut off was about 6.30pm so it probably would have been....
Now, the good selfless me is just pleased that the vaccine was not wasted......However the self-centred me is pissed off that this ad-hoc free-for-all was basically just allowed to leak out via NHS workers private whatsapp groups, which started at 2.00pm when they realised most of the demographic booked in were going to be no-shows.....and resulted in a huge queue of people around the block being disgruntled at being turned away.....
Anyway.....thats my morning moan out of the way.
fernandopartridge
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That's a 6.2m shortfall in doses, 33.5m vs 39.7m
31.4m first doses as of 1st April, 4.96m second doses
Of the 33.5m by the end of July, assuming the 12 week dosage interval, 25.5m people will be due a second dose. That means that there are only 8m left over to deliver as first doses which might just cover the over 40s.
As with everything else in the pandemic, younger people are disproportionately affected. Staff going back to work in pubs and restaurants unvaccinated and entirely unrepresented by political parties,
31.4m first doses as of 1st April, 4.96m second doses
Of the 33.5m by the end of July, assuming the 12 week dosage interval, 25.5m people will be due a second dose. That means that there are only 8m left over to deliver as first doses which might just cover the over 40s.
As with everything else in the pandemic, younger people are disproportionately affected. Staff going back to work in pubs and restaurants unvaccinated and entirely unrepresented by political parties,
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well that’s how it works when the party of the over 50s keeps getting in and the party of the under 50s is headed by a wet lettuce. We really need Moderna to arrive on time and for Novavax especially to hurry up and get approval.
I think that’s a slight over exaggeration Fernando. The shortfall is obviously not good news, however, the oldest and higher risk receiving the jab first appears to have been the right option ie protect those most at risk of hospitalisation/death. This already appears to be having a material affect on these most important numbers
The current shortfall is down to unforeseen circumstances and there is still a question mark for many youngsters (understandably) whether they actually want to take the vaccine or not....although I feel they are going to be forced into it ! I’m sure a far higher proportion just want to get back to some kind of normality, vaccine or not, after having their lives disproportionately affected by a virus which appears to have a far lesser impact on the young.
Finally, they are still going to get the vaccine and hopefully pretty quickly once the new vaccines come on stream, so are looking at a possible short delay over the summer months when hopefully transmission rates are low. Fingers crossed anyway
hopefully the J&J one jab vaccine will be available by mid summer as well
David O'Day
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Just the EU trying to hide their own mistakes lads
Covid: Under-30s offered alternative to Oxford-AstraZeneca jab
A review finds a "plausible" link to rare blood clots, but says the jab remains beneficial for most.
www.bbc.co.uk
Well it was never just the EU was it .Just the EU trying to hide their own mistakes lads
Covid: Under-30s offered alternative to Oxford-AstraZeneca jab
A review finds a "plausible" link to rare blood clots, but says the jab remains beneficial for most.www.bbc.co.uk
In fact the Nordic countries delved extremely deep on if it was linked .
And I know I read an article suggesting the under 39/40 cohort were to receive another brand weeks before this all came about.Just the EU trying to hide their own mistakes lads
Covid: Under-30s offered alternative to Oxford-AstraZeneca jab
A review finds a "plausible" link to rare blood clots, but says the jab remains beneficial for most.www.bbc.co.uk
shmmeee
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Just the EU trying to hide their own mistakes lads
Covid: Under-30s offered alternative to Oxford-AstraZeneca jab
A review finds a "plausible" link to rare blood clots, but says the jab remains beneficial for most.www.bbc.co.uk
Bit of a difference between recommending another brand for U30s and pulling it all together.
David O'Day
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Not really, pulling it so they can look at the side effects is not the same as you seem to be claiming.
shmmeee
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Look at the slides. It’s only just worth it for U30s in the U.K. because of our low numbers. If we had Europe’s cases it makes no sense at all.
Nothing to do with the EU, but the decisions made to halt usage of AZ on vulnerable populations while cases were still high is bordering on criminal. Nothing MHRA have said today changes that.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It seems more a case of the risk from COVID being so low to this age group that a vaccine with x % of side effects isn't worth it. Though being honest by the time we reach 18-29 we'll probably be on to Novavax for them anyway. Let's keep it in perspective, we're talking a few dozen cases out of tens of millions of injections.
Hideous really.
