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Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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Sky Blue Pete said:
Well she performed very well this morning
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She is also projected to lose her seat at this rate.

A poll conducted either just before or after the council elections projects the Tories would win a 123 seat majority. The SNP would also win all but one seat north of the border too.

People like Ed Miliband and Yvette Cooper would lose their seats.
 
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wingy

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dubed said:
I think quite some grace was given to them for being slow off the mark on the first round, and I have no confidence whatsoever that a government of different colour might have done things differently. I think the second event crept up on even the experts but then, when it had hit all it the face, Boris decided to sacrifice bodies rather than be accused of cancelling Christmas. This time round they are firmly in receipt of the advice in a timey way but it's clear that they are set on a course that protects the economy above the widespread impact it will have on health. I do think that if this turns out badly they will be significantly damaged.
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I personally think that Brexits protraction coupled to a rare Winter election didn't help as a more established in situ govt would have been more alert /reactive to the impending onslaught.
Followed by appalling foreign office /transport dept travel advice/restrictions
On the winter surge I have to hold the pm responsible for not taking the scientific advice ,coming up with his own tiers) levels across the country, followed by Christmas mixing..
Still travel restrictions are ad-hoc and full of loopholes.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
20,000 went to a game of football yesterday. Why don’t you go and guilt trip everyone who went rather than someone who wants 40 people at a wedding?
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I think I was challenging what appeared to me to be somewhat contradictory, or perhaps more fairly, contrasting positions, that the government wouldn't be blamed for 'another fuck up' whilst at the same time you would be quite relaxed about that given your plans. Let's just move on :)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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dubed said:
I think I was challenging what appeared to me to be somewhat contradictory, or perhaps more fairly, contrasting positions, that the government wouldn't be blamed for 'another fuck up' whilst at the same time you would be quite relaxed about that given your plans. Let's just move on :)
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I am talking about in 2 months time, at an event where every adult has been vaccinated and a large % double jabbed. You then make a sarcie comment about 'how many are you happy to die'. Real prick move that mate. Maybe come over here and try guilt tripping the missus for wanting it as well?
 
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Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I am talking about in 2 months time, at an event where every adult has been vaccinated and a large % double jabbed. You then make a sarcie comment about 'how many are you happy to die'. Real prick move that mate. Maybe come over here and try guilt tripping the missus for wanting it as well?
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Bit of an over reaction
 
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I am talking about in 2 months time, at an event where every adult has been vaccinated and a large % double jabbed. You then make a sarcie comment about 'how many are you happy to die'. Real prick move that mate. Maybe come over here and try guilt tripping the missus for wanting it as well?
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I think you over-reacting a wee bit, but then you do have a tendency to that.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Mucca Mad Boys said:
With UBI, it’s an interesting idea.

I’d like to see more trials on a larger scale, but if you could cut all bureaucracy of means tested benefits and replace all other benefits with UBI... Maybe it could be a good and popular policy.
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Cutting the bureaucracy I agree, but replacing benefits with UBI doesn't work. It's universal, so everyone gets it. From the richest tycoon to the poorest. So everyone would have an extra £12k in their pocket. That will be noticed by the industries where demand massively outstrips supply like housing and so rent and house prices are likely to go up massively. So the poorest end up paying more for the basics but with less of a buffer because what they used to get in addition to help them is now something everyone gets.

I'm not saying UBi is a bad idea, but you can't use it as a replacement for benefits. As old people get a state pension should we remove all the price concessions etc that they get?
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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dubed said:
I think you over-reacting a wee bit, but then you do have a tendency to that.
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You can't say what you said and not be prepared to get backlash from it. It was another 'variant' of 'you're killing granny'.

The people that want to push everyone into their way of thinking regarding stricter restrictions behave the worst.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You can't say what you said and not be prepared to get backlash from it. It was another 'variant' of 'you're killing granny'.

The people that want to push everyone into their way of thinking regarding stricter restrictions behave the worst.
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Oh don't be silly, I've explained I was pointing out the contradiction in the posts.

Away with you.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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dubed said:
Oh don't be silly, I've explained I was pointing out the contradiction in the posts.

Away with you.
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There is no such contradiction. I haven't argued that we should open it all up tomorrow and I don't think the relaxation of measures will lead to the wave of hospitalisations some think. I then said that in 2 months' time, not right now, where everyone is vaccinated and we just have 40 there, we should be able to have a wedding.

Bearing in mind that we have already pushed it back by over a year.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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dubed said:
Oh don't be silly, I've explained I was pointing out the contradiction in the posts.

Away with you.
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On this occasion I'll let you off, but in fairness to Brighton, he has said a lot on here about how hard it's been for his family, especially being teachers and all that. I'm not begging for an invite, but surely we all want it to go well for him without restrictions.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
On this occasion I'll let you off, but in fairness to Brighton, he has said a lot on here about how hard it's been for his family, especially being teachers and all that. I'm not begging for an invite, but surely we all want it to go well for him without restrictions.
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I do, and I'm sorry that my posts caused evident frustrations, as most sincerely it was not my intention or will.

All the best for your big day BSB!
 
Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Cutting the bureaucracy I agree, but replacing benefits with UBI doesn't work. It's universal, so everyone gets it. From the richest tycoon to the poorest. So everyone would have an extra £12k in their pocket. That will be noticed by the industries where demand massively outstrips supply like housing and so rent and house prices are likely to go up massively. So the poorest end up paying more for the basics but with less of a buffer because what they used to get in addition to help them is now something everyone gets.

I'm not saying UBi is a bad idea, but you can't use it as a replacement for benefits. As old people get a state pension should we remove all the price concessions etc that they get?
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100% agreed which is why I'd like to see it piloted on a larger scale to assess its impact. There could be untended consequences of this policy such as increased cost of living and/or wage depression because the state guarantees a set income.

Even if UBI is a successful policy, the emphasis has to be focused on created high quality jobs for people. The Government's responsibility is make this country as attractive as possible to invest in.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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dubed said:
I do, and I'm sorry that my posts caused evident frustrations, as most sincerely it was not my intention or will.

All the best for your big day BSB!
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There has been a lot bubbling under the surface for the past year and a bit, before March I wasn't half as tense and snappy as I am at the moment. As the missus has needed a lot of support I tend to vent steam on here. It does help even if it doesn't look like it!
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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If it isn’t a fake the participants are vile and should be done for hate crimes.

If it is fake then whoever is responsible for it are equally vile but there probably isn’t anything the law can do.
 
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