Do you want to discuss boring politics? (22 Viewers)

[Deleted member 4439]

Hardly. If the reply to 'I would like to have a small wedding' is 'Are you OK with 1,000 deaths' that's just being a prick.

It's been OK for me to be in classrooms all this time

Tell you what, just to show my support, send me an invite.

 

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

With UBI, it’s an interesting idea.

I’d like to see more trials on a larger scale, but if you could cut all bureaucracy of means tested benefits and replace all other benefits with UBI... Maybe it could be a good and popular policy.

Cutting the bureaucracy I agree, but replacing benefits with UBI doesn't work. It's universal, so everyone gets it. From the richest tycoon to the poorest. So everyone would have an extra £12k in their pocket. That will be noticed by the industries where demand massively outstrips supply like housing and so rent and house prices are likely to go up massively. So the poorest end up paying more for the basics but with less of a buffer because what they used to get in addition to help them is now something everyone gets.

I'm not saying UBi is a bad idea, but you can't use it as a replacement for benefits. As old people get a state pension should we remove all the price concessions etc that they get?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think you over-reacting a wee bit, but then you do have a tendency to that.

And I think suggesting 1,000 will die because of a vaccinated wedding of 40 is a far greater over-reaction. Perhaps if you had a missus getting into panic attacks over it a few times a week you'd understand why I 'over-reacted'

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Tell you what, just to show my support, send me an invite.

If there were space I would.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

If there were space I would.

i hope you both have a great day.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I think you over-reacting a wee bit, but then you do have a tendency to that.

You can't say what you said and not be prepared to get backlash from it. It was another 'variant' of 'you're killing granny'.

The people that want to push everyone into their way of thinking regarding stricter restrictions behave the worst.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

You can't say what you said and not be prepared to get backlash from it. It was another 'variant' of 'you're killing granny'.

The people that want to push everyone into their way of thinking regarding stricter restrictions behave the worst.

Oh don't be silly, I've explained I was pointing out the contradiction in the posts.

Away with you.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Oh don't be silly, I've explained I was pointing out the contradiction in the posts.

Away with you.

There is no such contradiction. I haven't argued that we should open it all up tomorrow and I don't think the relaxation of measures will lead to the wave of hospitalisations some think. I then said that in 2 months' time, not right now, where everyone is vaccinated and we just have 40 there, we should be able to have a wedding.

Bearing in mind that we have already pushed it back by over a year.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Oh don't be silly, I've explained I was pointing out the contradiction in the posts.

Away with you.

On this occasion I'll let you off, but in fairness to Brighton, he has said a lot on here about how hard it's been for his family, especially being teachers and all that. I'm not begging for an invite, but surely we all want it to go well for him without restrictions.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

On this occasion I'll let you off, but in fairness to Brighton, he has said a lot on here about how hard it's been for his family, especially being teachers and all that. I'm not begging for an invite, but surely we all want it to go well for him without restrictions.

I do, and I'm sorry that my posts caused evident frustrations, as most sincerely it was not my intention or will.

All the best for your big day BSB!

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Cutting the bureaucracy I agree, but replacing benefits with UBI doesn't work. It's universal, so everyone gets it. From the richest tycoon to the poorest. So everyone would have an extra £12k in their pocket. That will be noticed by the industries where demand massively outstrips supply like housing and so rent and house prices are likely to go up massively. So the poorest end up paying more for the basics but with less of a buffer because what they used to get in addition to help them is now something everyone gets.

I'm not saying UBi is a bad idea, but you can't use it as a replacement for benefits. As old people get a state pension should we remove all the price concessions etc that they get?

100% agreed which is why I'd like to see it piloted on a larger scale to assess its impact. There could be untended consequences of this policy such as increased cost of living and/or wage depression because the state guarantees a set income.

Even if UBI is a successful policy, the emphasis has to be focused on created high quality jobs for people. The Government's responsibility is make this country as attractive as possible to invest in.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I do, and I'm sorry that my posts caused evident frustrations, as most sincerely it was not my intention or will.

All the best for your big day BSB!

It's cool, debate is good. Let's just let him have his big day before we can start calling him a c**t again.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I do, and I'm sorry that my posts caused evident frustrations, as most sincerely it was not my intention or will.

All the best for your big day BSB!

There has been a lot bubbling under the surface for the past year and a bit, before March I wasn't half as tense and snappy as I am at the moment. As the missus has needed a lot of support I tend to vent steam on here. It does help even if it doesn't look like it!

 

[Evo1883]

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Interesting comments from Burnham

Andy Burnham says 'red wall' seats would have been safer under his leadership (inews.co.uk)

 

[Ccfcisparks]

What the fuck

 

[TomRad85]

David probably supports this.

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[Ian1779]

What the fuck

It’s a fake.

 

[Evo1883]

It’s a fake.

Is it ?

 

[Evo1883]

It’s a fake.

 

[Evo1883]

It’s a fake.

Doesn't seem fake Ian, what made you say it was ?

 

[Grendel]

Good old Zara

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Good old Zara

The settlements are illegal though?

 

[skybluetony176]

If it isn’t a fake the participants are vile and should be done for hate crimes.

If it is fake then whoever is responsible for it are equally vile but there probably isn’t anything the law can do.

 

[skybluetony176]

Good old Zara

What’s wrong in what she says?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What’s wrong in what she says?

Nothing

 

[Evo1883]

What’s wrong in what she says?

Wheres her condemnation of hamas, you know the ones that keep getting gaza bombed to shit

Why are Labour MPs marching in pro Palestinian protests in london ???

Again mate , back to the point about why Labour are out for good pal

 

[Grendel]

The settlements are illegal though?

Sultanas whole twitter feed is pro palestine sentiment - she’s a real asset to the Labour Party

 

[Grendel]

Wheres her condemnation of hamas, you know the ones that keep getting gaza bombed to shit

Does the Tonester have a bat phone on alert every time I post

Bless him

 

[Evo1883]

Labour MPs marching in a protest that is full of anti semitic /anti Jewish rhetoric .

So thick it hurts

We will change ? Will you fuck

 

[Deleted member 4439]

What’s wrong in what she says?

She is right about illegal settlements and post-wars occupations. But lest we forget, it was Hamas that began the attacks. She is conveniently wrong about that.

I'm ashamed to have a politician representing Coventry in this way.

 

[Evo1883]

I'm done with Labour

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sultanas whole twitter feed is pro palestine sentiment - she’s a real asset to the Labour Party

She is right on some things though, the settlements break international law and Israeli military actions aren't always just aimed at Hamas. Without a 2 state solution it will never end

 

[Grendel]

Labour MPs marching in a protest that as full of anti semitic anti Jewish rhetoric .

So thick it hurts

We will change ? Will you fuck

Sultana claims she receives more correspondence from her constituents supporting Palestinians than any other topic - of course she does

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'm done with Labour

Base that on substance and policy not MPs on Twitter