Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (189 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

SAGE expert calls for June 21 to be delayed 'by a few weeks'

Environment Secretary George Eustice today warned the Government 'couldn't rule anything out' when asked whether June 21 'freedom day' could be delayed due to rising Covid infections.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

SAGE expert calls for June 21 to be delayed 'by a few weeks'

Environment Secretary George Eustice today warned the Government 'couldn't rule anything out' when asked whether June 21 'freedom day' could be delayed due to rising Covid infections.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Easy for them to say

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Easy for them to say

Does make sense but we open up too fast and shut down too slow. That’s the mantra.

 

[Grendel]

This should trigger Earlsdon

Almost half of Britons do not believe England's Covid-19 rules should ease on 21 June

Doubts have been cast on the Government’s plans to move to step four of the roadmap due to increase in cases of the Indian variant

www.google.co.uk

 

[Grendel]

Does make sense but we open up too fast and shut down too slow. That’s the mantra.

don’t see how anyone can say we are opening up fast we’ll have done 70 million jabs by June 21

 

[Ccfcisparks]

don’t see how anyone can say we are opening up fast we’ll have done 70 million jabs by June 21

Way to fast. We should be locked down until the autumn at least.

 

[clint van damme]

I wish they'd kept the pubs shut. Im hanging

 

[Evo1883]

SAGE expert calls for June 21 to be delayed 'by a few weeks'

Environment Secretary George Eustice today warned the Government 'couldn't rule anything out' when asked whether June 21 'freedom day' could be delayed due to rising Covid infections.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[CCFCSteve]

Easy for them to say

Bit early for that. Michie loves a lockdown though. Ive got no issue with people saying that we have to see whether the chain/link between cases and hospitalisations has been broken by the vaccination programme and if it hasn’t been sufficiently, then the 21 June should be delayed....but calling it now ?!! Shows an already skewed view in my eyes

This weeks data will probably be key to the decision. Let’s just hope things remain under control

 

[Evo1883]

Way to fast. We should be locked down until the autumn at least.

Autumn 2025 I say

 

[CCFCSteve]

I wish they'd kept the pubs shut. Im hanging

That was me yesterday, thank god for the decent weather, I was in bits ! Good luck

 

[Evo1883]

This should trigger Earlsdon

Almost half of Britons do not believe England's Covid-19 rules should ease on 21 June

Doubts have been cast on the Government’s plans to move to step four of the roadmap due to increase in cases of the Indian variant

www.google.co.uk

This doesn't surprise me , many people like their new life

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

don’t see how anyone can say we are opening up fast we’ll have done 70 million jabs by June 21

Hindsight from the previous two lockdowns. That’s all. I’ve no idea but the reality is just that

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

don’t see how anyone can say we are opening up fast we’ll have done 70 million jabs by June 21

I’ll have had two in 2 days. I feel pretty safe but actually have always done so

 

[Evo1883]

Hindsight from the previous two lockdowns. That’s all. I’ve no idea but the reality is just that

I think the main difference between now and the 2 previous lockdowns is a vaccine which they are saying is what , 85% plus effective .

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I think the main difference between now and the 2 previous lockdowns is a vaccine which they are saying is what , 85% plus effective .

Yep I agree

 

[Evo1883]

So as I understand it , delaying the next stage means that things will just stay as they are now ?

Let's be honest , they are going to delay it .

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So as I understand it , delaying the next stage means that things will just stay as they are now ?

Let's be honest , they are going to delay it .

Well you can open lots up but still keep social distancing and masks for instance

 

[Evo1883]

Do we have any data on how many people have died who have been fully vaccinated and who have contracted the virus

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Autumn 2025 I say

I'd say atleast 2030 but each to their own.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Do we have any data on how many people have died who have been fully vaccinated and who have contracted the virus

saw that two in Bolton area have unfortunately passed (not sure of age, pre existing conditions etc though)

 

[Grendel]

Do we have any data on how many people have died who have been fully vaccinated and who have contracted the virus

113 out of 52,000 in a study and most were in the 80 plus bracket

 

[CCFCSteve]

Well you can open lots up but still keep social distancing and masks for instance

yeah, I wondered if they might end up just tweaking some of the 21 June removal of restrictions ie allow certain events but maybe with a requirement for negative tests pre event

 

[Evo1883]

saw that two in Bolton area has unfortunately passed (not sure of age, pre existing conditions etc though)

Very sad .

We are however in a fortunate position with this vaccine where it has an extremely high success rate as opposed to the flu jab , which is successful but much less so, we still lose thousands a year even with a vaccine .

I made the point the other day that we will have to get to the point where there is an acceptable amount of deaths before there is a huge concern .

On average 43 die a day with flu (with vaccines )

So we need to get to a point where we understand what the covid 19 normal will be

 

[Evo1883]

To be fair , it still might be a bit too soon to know this .

 

[Ccfcisparks]

113 out of 52,000 in a study and most were in the 80 plus bracket

Worryingly high.

 

[Evo1883]

Worryingly high.

You're a clever lad , do the quick match for me...what percentage is that please , genuine question (not being sarcastic just shit at math )

 

[Grendel]

You're a clever lad , do the quick match for me...what percentage is that please , genuine question (not being sarcastic just shit at math )

Also it’s believed some contracted in before the 3 week period the vaccine takes full effect

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Does make sense but we open up too fast and shut down too slow. That’s the mantra.

Tell that to businesses on the edge and people who have postponed life events for a year already

 

[Evo1883]

There is still a worrying attitude towards people going back to normal activities (legally , can't believe I'm saying that )
Take yesterday and people going to the beach as an example , there are people still having digs at them on the socials

 

[Sick Boy]

How likely is it that by September I’d be able to visit without having to quarantine if I’ve been fully vaccinated?

 

[PVA]

Those numbers are way off according to three articles I've just read.

Of those 52,000 only 3,500 had actually been vaccinated.

113 died.



It was pretty much exclusively old and frail people that died, but to say it is 113 in 52,000 is unbelievably wide of the mark.

 

[Evo1883]

Those numbers are way off according to three articles I've just read.

Of those 52,000 only 3,500 had actually been vaccinated.

Of those 3500, 520 had been vaccinated at least 3 weeks before they got Covid.

113 died.



It was pretty much exclusively old and frail people that died, but to say it is 113 in 52,000 is unbelievably wide of the mark.

So it's 113 of 520 or is it still 113 of 52000 but most hadn't been vaccinated ?

Or is it 113 of 3500 vaccinated (confused )

 

[PVA]

So it's 113 of 520 or is it still 113 of 52000 but most hadn't been vaccinated ?

It was 113 out of 52,000, but only 3,500 had been vaccinated (and only 500 of them had been vaccinated 3 weeks before they got Covid)

 

[David O'Day]

You're a clever lad , do the quick match for me...what percentage is that please , genuine question (not being sarcastic just shit at math )

about 0.22%