Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (17 Viewers)
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Sky Blue Pete
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Yeah I agree. And if you’ve not been out you’ll see hidden dangers everywhere
When I was trying to get my mum to be more careful as she’s clinically extremely vulnerable my sister was saying don’t be anxious or worried. And I was like I’m not I’m concerned for mum.
You make a really good point though as does Grendel in terms of work.
Nick
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I still think the media are to blame in part too. If you're sat at home hearing scary stuff and numbers all day every day.
That prick Dr Hillary making out everybody is going to die every day.
clint van damme
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Holland reintroducing some restrictions after lifting lockdown and cases doubling in two weeks.
Hasn't had an impacton hospitalisations but they reckon if its going they'll start seeing the impact next week. Fingers crossed there is no impact
Hasn't had an impacton hospitalisations but they reckon if its going they'll start seeing the impact next week. Fingers crossed there is no impact
COV
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I don’t think we will, it’s herd immunity without saying it. That will work, but it is going to cost lives. Not for me to say whether it’s right or wrong but that’s how it will pan out- I think it would take a horrendous spike now for there to be more restrictions to come back in, can’t see it.
Philosoraptor
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Death Chart Guy has been watching the footy.
robbiekeane
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deaths have hardly increased. The vaccines have broken the link between cases and deaths. It’s time to get on with life.
Sky Blue Pete
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Sick Boy
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Sorry to hear that.
Grendel
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I didn’t know him that well - but occasionally kept in touch - went in the first wave.
The vaccine has the effect at least I think of keeping the virus at bay as a fatal illness for most.
So now although some get the virus it may be unpleasant but not life threatening
hill83
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Can’t think why. Anyone got any ideas?
It’ll die off from the news eventually anyway. It was about deaths, now it’s about cases as the link looks broken. Then we can get back to articles about tits.
robbiekeane
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Has it not?
Saddlebrains
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All this 'Long Covid'
It existed before. Its called Post Viral Fatigue syndrome. Its been recognised for decades.
Put the word covid in it though and thats different isnt it
It existed before. Its called Post Viral Fatigue syndrome. Its been recognised for decades.
Put the word covid in it though and thats different isnt it
COV
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All this 'Long Covid'
It existed before. Its called Post Viral Fatigue syndrome. Its been recognised for decades.
Put the word covid in it though and thats different isnt it
the whole thing is a hoax m8
Saddlebrains
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Sky Blue Pete
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Not completely no and risking it with 2.8m cases a month seems a bizarre choice
TomRad85
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Visiting the old barracks hey mate?Fuck it , we've booked for Cyprus next July, here's hoping
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Nick
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Because it's in the media and rammed down people's throats.
People refreshing to get the latest numbers and charts and stuff. It's no good for people.
chiefdave
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In news that will surprise nobody it seems 'freedom day' is quickly turning into a shambles.
The Times are reporting that the vaccine / negative test passports that have proven effective at test events will be dropped as planned on July 19th but then reintroduced 6 - 10 weeks later. Can someone explain to me why we've tested a system, shown it works and now plan to drop it only to bring it back again in a few weeks?
Meanwhile The Guardian reports Whitehall sources saying "that ministers had been spooked by internal polling" with one poll showing only 10% of the public support the removal of all restrictions and a second poll showing people believed the government was moving too quickly.
Problem now is that Johnson won't backtrack, not because he's 'following the science' or because of polling but because it “would be political suicide”.
The Times are reporting that the vaccine / negative test passports that have proven effective at test events will be dropped as planned on July 19th but then reintroduced 6 - 10 weeks later. Can someone explain to me why we've tested a system, shown it works and now plan to drop it only to bring it back again in a few weeks?
Meanwhile The Guardian reports Whitehall sources saying "that ministers had been spooked by internal polling" with one poll showing only 10% of the public support the removal of all restrictions and a second poll showing people believed the government was moving too quickly.
Problem now is that Johnson won't backtrack, not because he's 'following the science' or because of polling but because it “would be political suicide”.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Not sure why it would be political suicide if their polling says only 10% of public support it. Usually you can see him doing stuff that is popular. Of course he'd piss off the nutjobs in and around the party and there's clearly a few around the place after his job (and with Cummings out for revenge a potential goldmine of info to tap into).
I reckon he's waiting for the football to slip it in (no, not like that...actually on second thoughts he probably is) and 'bury bad news'. People might be annoyed but he'd hope the euphoria if we won would allow him to get away with it. He seems to have that gift of luck.
As for dropping the passports to bring them in again later, fuck knows what the thinking is and it makes no sense. Then you remember it's this government and you realise of course that's exactly the kind of thing they'd do.
robbiekeane
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Where do these polls even come from. I don’t think I’ve ever participated in a poll in my life apart from SBT
robbiekeane
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But we’re always going to have high cases at some point? There’s no avoiding it, we just need to stop the hospitals being overwhelmed and people from dying. That seems to be the case now
It’s a contagious virus and we have people mixing with each other. There’s no getting away from it is there, unless we have constant lockdowns forever? The vulnerable have been vaccinated and the deaths are now much much much lower than they were at other times when the cases were at this level.
Time to get on with life now isn’t it and learn to live with it
COV
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I have wondered that too. Everyone fears the mysterious polls.
Grendel
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One poll said a large percentage wanted a 10 pm curfew even after Covid no longer was a threat
COV
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If you’re referring to that Economist poll then it was 18% that wanted a permanent 10pm curfew. More than you’d expect but certainly not “large”.
Sample size was 1,025 which is about 0.00002% of the population.
So basically your comment backs up why you can’t really use these polls to draw any serious conclusions.
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There are a lot of people who'd like that kind of thing regardless of Covid - keep the youth under control and all that.
Covid isn't necessarily the motivating cause, more what to hang a hat on in that instance.
(And 20% wasn't significant numbers for certain arguments...
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Deleted member 5849
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As ever on here however, it's being painted as black and white (not from you tbf). Now, the Chief Medical Officer days most restrictions should end... so I'll go with that. He also gave a very precise explanation over where he'd wear a mask, and none of that was overly radical, but we're not mandating that.
Now, none of what he said ref: masks stops people getting on with life really. I don't see why there would be any push back on that as it's not a huge imposition, and not a massive chore either. Now, in an ideal world you wouldn't have to mandate for common courtesy but... this is not an ideal world.
So, isn't it possible to heed the Chief Medical Officer in all respects and still be able to get on with life, without cherry picking, as government seem to have done?
(I really don't fancy getting on with life on packed commuter trains anyway, Covid or no, so don't quite get the desire for those elements anyway!)
Sick Boy
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There’s something similar here with over 40s having priority over under 39s. They can get appointments within days rather than a couple of weeks and 2nd doses within 4 vs 5 weeks.
Sky Blue Pete
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How a mature democracy deals with this issue
Australia: New South Wales confirms first Covid-related death in 10 months
A woman in her 90s died in Sydney, as state officials warn of a surge in new infections.
www.bbc.co.uk