COV
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It wasn’t 99% either. You are being stupid and for some reason this whole topic seems to make you very uncomfortable?
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It wasn’t 99% either. You are being stupid and for some reason this whole topic seems to make you very uncomfortable?
Ccfcisparks
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Ccfcisparks
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Are you going to backup where I said this? Or just completely ignore it again?
Mucca Mad Boys
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We beat Germany, scarcely an easy draw.
Frankly, European football has never been more dominant. Brazil and Argentina are generally not as strong as they were nor our the other South American nations; Chile, Uruguay and Colombia.
Winning the Euros is generally on a similar plane to winning the World Cup.
COV
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England isn’t racist and many other countries are way worse, but there is a problem and it’s brilliant that the players have drawn all this attention to it by taking the knee, I don’t understand why you’re so uncomfortable dealing with that.
Evo1883
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Evo1883
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Not sure Greece would win the world Cup..
And I also think Germany are generally in quite a middle of the road place at the moment, a poor few years by their standards
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Oh another one just begging for a few likes.
I am very much in favour of putting an end to racism, but baseless accusations, or getting upset because people have a different opinion so 'let's call them racist', does significantly more damage to the cause. Again though, it isn't about solving the problem. It is about a good bit of old fashioned virtue signalling - in your case at least.
COV
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Hasn’t it just? One minute it’s being called a Marxism signal the next the same people are trying to jump on board and looking very hypocritical
Not sure it would have worked as well if we’d have gone out in the group stages
COV
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But I’m not upset at all, I’m very happy about the players actions having the right effect, it seems to be you getting a bit aggrivated?
Ccfcisparks
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Grendel do you think the comments from the Portsmouth players are out of order?
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue
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CJ, I didn’t know how to mention you without a quote tweet but why did you put yourself forward for SkySports news today to talk about trouble on Sunday?
You were in the stadium for 5:15pm putting your flag up with only a handful of other people in the stadium, so I don’t know how you could have witnessed any stampedes or surges of fans getting through turnstiles?
We were on Wembley Way until 7pm and the problem was getting out of hand with non-match ticket holders and drunk 18 year old gangsters causing carnage without any police in sight. Really don’t know how someone sat in Block 109 3 hours before kick off can provide details of what was going on outside the ground...
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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You were the one inferring people criticising Sterling were racist.
Another one of your 'I wonder why' posts.
Mucca Mad Boys
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They’re in a transitional phase, for sure. But they still have good individuals players. Havertz, Gnabry, Sane, Müller, Gundogan, Kroos, Neuer, Kimmich and you could even add in Werner.
Not sure why so many England fans want to put an asterisk on our own achievements. It’s really peculiar and we don’t do it other nations either.
We could’ve had easier runs in 2002, 2004, 2010 and 2016. Yet, we failed to win our group stages.
Before this tournament, we managed to win 1 knockout game in the Euros (Spain, 1996). Southgate has tripled our record in one tournament.
Skybluefaz
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Bit old hat init, Papa John's maybe?
Grendel
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I have not seen the comments but clearly if they are of a racist nature and we’re from the academy players then yes and it’s difficult to see how they can be retained
Evo1883
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The euros set up was different for a long time , there was only 4 groups for starters and before that possibly 2 I believe.
The group stages were always harder , relative to the teams at the time and it went straight to the quarters and before that semis
Example 2000 we had Germany Romania (decent side then , 11th in the world ) and Portugal , 2004 France, Croatia, Switzerland
Euro 2012 we won a group with France Sweden and Ukraine with 2 wins
Euro 88 we had the soviet Union , Holland and ROI
it was alot tougher in the groups before the format change which allowed more lower ranked teams to qualify and subsequently allowing 3rd placed teams through leads to more comfortable knockout fixtures
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Grendel
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I do think some of the media negativity against Sterling was racist and you always felt he had to better than others to prove his worth
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Yup, it's like some of them have been looking for him to step out of line, too. I've actually got a lot of admiration for the way he dealt with it, and came through it.
Ccfcisparks
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Very true. He got a bad rap particularly off the S**.
COV
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Grendel
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I don’t know what it is. I don’t think the likes of Marcus Rashford have had the same but he’s always seemed a fall guy for some reason
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I dunno, Rashford's definitely had a bit about how he shouldn't be interfering in things like the school dinners stuff... although you could argue that's big standard tabloid fare
His penalty record's pretty awful really!I still think he should have taken a penalty though
COV
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I know, maybe it was driven by sympathy for Saka, i just thought someone should have seen how nervous he was and took over from him.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Even this shows they created 4 big chances, 2 of which were in the sequence of their goal.
xG has its usefulness, but it’s not the be able and end all of describing how a match went.
If England want to carry on playing as we are, I’ve got no problems with that. That being said, we need to be more effective on the counter and creating chances when we’re 1-0 up.
Ccfcisparks
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Anyway, this forum isn't racist by a long shot. If you want to see some racist comments go and check the Millwall forum...
here’s a teaser:
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Mucca Mad Boys
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That still doesn’t account for winning just 1 knockout game in 68 years.
The Czech Republic beat the Netherlands in the knock out stages, so clearly weren’t a bad side. As for Croatia, World Cup finalists and took Spain to extra time. As for Scotland, fierce rivalries can provide shock results and have generally improved a lot since they qualified.
Even if Southgate isn’t the best manager, he’s delivering at major tournaments and that’s what he gets paid to do.
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tbf for a fair old while the finals were the last eight, anyway. Graham Taylor's 'failure' still had us in the top few in Europe, as did Bobby Robson in '88.
But yeah, as said, you can only beat what's there, and we got to the final when the so called quality teams didn't. If Southgate is under pressure, then how about Didier Deschamps!