Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (162 Viewers)
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Grendel
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He’s acting illegally
COV
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Should an elderly employee turn up at work to alongside others if they had the flu?
I literally just said I won't be asking.
COV
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it’s just bickering and making up daft scenarios to try and “win”
it’s just bickering and making up daft scenarios to try and “win”
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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All we need is for O'Day to finish his Friday night IRA social and we'll have the full set of clowns in here tonight.
A quick scroll through the Morrisons topic on twitter shows that the majority of people agree with it.
You lads that think a small group of numpties losing out on some sick pay is the most abhorrent thing ever are in the minority. You've taken it waaaay too seriously.
You lads that think a small group of numpties losing out on some sick pay is the most abhorrent thing ever are in the minority. You've taken it waaaay too seriously.
fernandopartridge
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Yeah the basic principle of taking a safe vaccine to protect yourself, your colleagues, your customers. Not fucking rocket science is it. Morrisons have every right to want to keep their employees and customers safe.
Freedom of choice does not mean freedom of consequence. This is what people don't seem to understand.
fernandopartridge
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It's not even about the covid vaccine
Well it is. But what do you think it is about then?
The principle?
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I agree with your last paragraph but, again, what's the point of Morrison's doing this? Get Covid when unvaccinated and the probability of needing more time off than is usually funded by employers goes up so, ultimately, the status quo punishes unvaccinated people anyway.
Not that I have much sympathy with the people it'll impact...
Vaccinated people don't have to isolate if they get pinged, unvaccinated people do so I guess that's a large part of it?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Morrisons is alright! The salad bar and hot food counter are decent
Brighton Sky Blue
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fernandopartridge
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The principle is that your employer decides which illness is worthy of sick pay and which isn't.
I asked you before, should somebody double vaccinated yet off work ill with covid get paid yet somebody unvaccinated shouldn't?
Is Morrison's giving its staff paid leave to go and get the vaccine?
But you can't compare this to any other illness. It's completely novel. It's not like they're saying 'hmm people with cancer you can have sick pay, people with heart disease sorry tough luck lolz'
If someone vaccinated is off work with Covid and someone unvaccinated is off with Covid they both get stat sick pay. If Morrisons decide they want to give the person that only did the bare minium to try and prevent becoming ill with Covid the bare minimum of stat sick pay, while giving the person who actually took steps to try and prevent it, well you can't blame them and they're perfectly entitled to.
Well these lads, who definitely haven't gone waaaay over the top with their reaction, who are outraged at Morrison’s just reducing sick pay, not forcing anyone to have the vaccine, must be apoplectic at this news.
Philosoraptor
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I don't know if this has already been mentioned in the thread but Scotland is now just 11 days away from having more beds filled in hospitals than there was during the peak of last winter's pandemic.
I’d imagine most of these arguments have been made but may be lost in the bickering 
Morrison’s won’t be the first or the last. Shmmeee mentioned I think Delta Airlines have bumped up PMI costs for unvaccinated staff which is far worse.
Whilst I don’t like backdoor mandating people to take vaccines (I’ve always felt it should be individuals choice). You can understand Morrison’s position. Currently if youre double jabbed and pinged you don’t have to quarantine. If you’re not you should. Also we don’t know how many people might’ve taken the piss with being pinged and staying off work for a couple of weeks ?! It would be relatively easy to do if you know someone who’s got covid.
They are still paying sick pay if you get covid (vaccinated or unvaccinated) or have symptoms. In addition the more people vaccinated the less likely internal spread at the company and/or to customers
Id they were cutting sick pay for unvaccinated who actually caught covid, I’d 100% be against it. Also theyve potentially caused a new issue of people without symptoms ignoring the ping and still going in and spreading ! Not good.
Morrison’s won’t be the first or the last. Shmmeee mentioned I think Delta Airlines have bumped up PMI costs for unvaccinated staff which is far worse.
Whilst I don’t like backdoor mandating people to take vaccines (I’ve always felt it should be individuals choice). You can understand Morrison’s position. Currently if youre double jabbed and pinged you don’t have to quarantine. If you’re not you should. Also we don’t know how many people might’ve taken the piss with being pinged and staying off work for a couple of weeks ?! It would be relatively easy to do if you know someone who’s got covid.
They are still paying sick pay if you get covid (vaccinated or unvaccinated) or have symptoms. In addition the more people vaccinated the less likely internal spread at the company and/or to customers
Id they were cutting sick pay for unvaccinated who actually caught covid, I’d 100% be against it. Also theyve potentially caused a new issue of people without symptoms ignoring the ping and still going in and spreading ! Not good.
Grendel
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Yet they have a stricter policy than England regarding mask wearing
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So think how bad it would be without that...