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[Nick]

I see the far right are using the horrific murder of an MP to politicise the arrival of asylum seekers. One organisation even going as low as to say how it started and how it’s going by using a tweet by David Amess supporting a campaign bring unaccompanied children to the UK from the camps and a headline of his murder side by side. Many others using his murder to complain about the RNLI picking up asylum seekers in the channel.

You are doing the same from the other side though?

 

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[PVA]

I think... we should rise above all this kind of stuff, all agree that it's very sad a husband and father has lost his life doing his job... and show ourselves better than resorting to point scoring.

From all angles.

Leave that to others.

Absolutely, and that's what all but one were doing yesterday.

It's a fucking tragedy, horrible stuff. Two MPs murdered in 6 years is just appalling

 

[PVA]

What the fuck. This can't be allowed surely?

Deliberately using out of date information to mislead the electorate.

 

[PVA]

In more uplifting news however...

 

[Ian1779]

In more uplifting news however...

Apparently he was so bad at saving the UK from Cov-ID they couldn’t take the risk with Africa.

 

[Grendel]

Nothing to do with Angela Rayner/'leftie morons' then.

So not only did Grendel try to use a man's death to point score, he didn't actually have a point.

Real classy guy.

Actually I did nothing of the sort

I pointed out the dishonest empty tributes made when this man died. Rayner and her ilk are without quality. She called ALL Tories homophobic, misogynistic racist scum. It’s a fact. It’s on record - she refused to apologise

While we are at it her mentor Jon McDonnell of course once said what’s a dead Tory after the Brighton bombing - a start and of course said he wished he’d assinatated thatcher

That’s the left - not moderate Labour - but the snarling bitter class war left that Rayner is a part of

compare her lack of grace and dignity to the man who died

She isn’t fit to lick his boots

 

[Deleted member 5849]

/sighs

 

[Grendel]

/sighs

double sigh

Angela Rayner slammed for 'trite sympathy' after repeatedly saying 'Tory scum'

After the fatal stabbing of a Tory MP, critics suggested her 'dehumanising' language could spur acts of violence against Conservatives.

www.google.co.uk

 

[PVA]

Oh he's still going.

 

[COV]

Oh he's still going.

During the match as well he was at it.

 

[Astute]

Actually I did nothing of the sort

I pointed out the dishonest empty tributes made when this man died. Rayner and her ilk are without quality. She called ALL Tories homophobic, misogynistic racist scum. It’s a fact. It’s on record - she refused to apologise

While we are at it her mentor Jon McDonnell of course once said what’s a dead Tory after the Brighton bombing - a start and of course said he wished he’d assinatated thatcher

That’s the left - not moderate Labour - but the snarling bitter class war left that Rayner is a part of

compare her lack of grace and dignity to the man who died

She isn’t fit to lick his boots

Lack of grace and dignity? Maybe you need to look at yourself.

 

[PVA]

Looking better.

Plenty of anti-immigration rhetoric coming up to try and reverse the trend no doubt.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Looking better.

Plenty of anti-immigration rhetoric coming up to try and reverse the trend no doubt.

An electoral pact with the LDs and Greens just to get the Tories out? Hmmm

 

[Grendel]

An electoral pact with the LDs and Greens just to get the Tories out? Hmmm

The poll the other day of course put the Tories 15 points ahead and this poll seems mainly to get traction in tbe anti Johnson Mail on Sunday - which is significant

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The poll the other day of course put the Tories 15 points ahead and this poll seems mainly to get traction in tbe anti Johnson Mail on Sunday - which is significant

Outside the realms of that the Tories aren’t going to get over half the vote in all probability. So it again begs the question above

 

[PVA]

The Yougov poll that had a 15 point lead has shrunk to 10, and seems to be an outlier.

 

[Grendel]

Outside the realms of that the Tories aren’t going to get over half the vote in all probability. So it again begs the question above

it doesn’t as the day Labour stand down people from seats is the day they acknowledge they Are a fringe party

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

it doesn’t as the day Labour stand down people from seats is the day they acknowledge they Are a fringe party

Not necessarily standing down seats

 

[wingy]

Which poll did Marr cite this morning as there was only one point between them as parties,yet huge gap between leaders?

 

[Evo1883]

An electoral pact with the LDs and Greens just to get the Tories out? Hmmm

Only way tbh , hopefully they do

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Only way tbh , hopefully they do

There are more anti-Tories than Tories in this country, given that Labour will not win outright I’m struggling to see how else you get them out.

 

[wingy]

Been a few articles stirring up between PM and treasury ,who incede tally are seemingly manipulating how data is released from the ONS.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Been a few articles stirring up between PM and treasury ,who incede tally are seemingly manipulating how data is released from the ONS.

This makes The Thick Of It look factual

 

[TomRad85]

There are more anti-Tories than Tories in this country, given that Labour will not win outright I’m struggling to see how else you get them out.

There are also more anti Labour than Labour. There's no appetite from Lib Dem voters to buddy up with Labour. If there was they'd just vote Labour.

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[wingy]

There are also more anti Labour than Labour. There's no appetite from Lib Dem voters to buddy up with Labour. If there was they'd just vote Labour.

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Is there much between eithers policy or leaders?

 

[skybluetony176]

I see that neither Labour or Lib Dem’s are going to stand a candidate in the Leigh on Sea by election that sadly is now going to happen. A great gesture from both parties in tragic circumstances.

 

[Grendel]

Not necessarily standing down seats

you also make an assumption no one would defect to Tories and they very much would - also coalition governments have ugly outcomes for the parties propping up the main one

 

[David O'Day]

What the fuck. This can't be allowed surely?

Deliberately using out of date information to mislead the electorate.

There's not going to be an election next year

 

[Nick]

The suspect is the son of a Somali government official and had made an appointment to see him.

Planned... Horrible c**t

 

[clint van damme]

The suspect is the son of a Somali government official and had made an appointment to see him.

Planned... Horrible c**t

Also searching a property in Kentish Town. If that's where he lives then he's travelled quite a way and for some reason he's singled Amess out - but why?
Seems really strange.

 

[Nick]

Also searching a property in Kentish Town. If that's where he lives then he's travelled quite a way and for some reason he's singled Amess out - but why?
Seems really strange.

Some random old history with his dad? No idea . Just seems random

 

[clint van damme]

Some random old history with his dad? No idea . Just seems random

I'm sure it will come out in the course of the investigation.

 

[PVA]

Some random old history with his dad? No idea . Just seems random

Because of Angela Rayner's comments, apparently.

But seriously, I'm guessing if it was an Islamist terror attack he wanted a high profile target and thought an MP would fit the bill? Don't know, but that would be my guess.

 

[Grendel]

Because of Angela Rayner's comments, apparently.

But seriously, I'm guessing if it was an Islamist terror attack he wanted a high profile target and thought an MP would fit the bill? Don't know, but that would be my guess.

Again no one has said because of her comments please keep up

 

[clint van damme]

Because of Angela Rayner's comments, apparently.

But seriously, I'm guessing if it was an Islamist terror attack he wanted a high profile target and thought an MP would fit the bill? Don't know, but that would be my guess.

But if the house they're searching in Kentish Town is his residence why did he travel to Southend?
There are Tory constituencies closer to him than there.
Amess's voting record isn't particularly controversial, as far as middle Eastern policy I'd say its pretty much aligned with most tory mps.