Saddlebrains
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I can see Lewis doing a Rosberg
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So Mercedes and Red Bull representatives, along with a Mercedes Barrister, are currently chatting with the race director / stewards. It seems odd to have a Barrister to hand but in this sport, and with the often opaque rulings, I guess it shouldn't be too surprising when so much was going to be at stake today. I'm not sure why Red Bull are involved, the Mercedes beef is with Masi isn't it, Red Bull have done no wrong as far as I can see.
hill83
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covcity4life
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Love you
hill83
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Alan Dugdales Moustache
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I'm no expert, but is there anything in the fact that Verstappen clearly overtook Hamilton under the safety car just before the safety car ended.
At the actual point at which the car went off, Lewis was in front , not Max.
At the actual point at which the car went off, Lewis was in front , not Max.
Bugsy
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That's another one of Mercedes protests which a verdict will be announced on about half hours time.
Paul Anthony
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Honestly, I don't see it. I'm pretty sure the only time that's an issue is if you overtake and keep the position before crossing the start line to restart. Max was behind at that point. Technically you're meant to stay on the racing line behind the leading car, but I don't think I've ever seen that rule applied.
Si80
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I get that Merc are pissed. But lawyers to try and overturn a win isn’t how Lewis would want to win the Championship.
Last few races Lewis has been on another planet in terms of performance and would’ve walked today too, but Max is a worthy winner of the Championship. I don’t like his driving style at times, but he’s won more races, had more poles and led the most laps across the season. In any other season you would say he deserves it without question.
Last few races Lewis has been on another planet in terms of performance and would’ve walked today too, but Max is a worthy winner of the Championship. I don’t like his driving style at times, but he’s won more races, had more poles and led the most laps across the season. In any other season you would say he deserves it without question.
Si80
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I think the Beeb reporting that Horner coming out of the office with a smile on his face and winking to the reporters tells you all you need to know about how the protest has gone.
That was an hour ago and it seems was in response to a complaint lodged over Max overtaking under the safety car which was never coming to anything.
The restart however will be Mercedes versus Masi which I doubt Red Bull will be asked their opinion of because it doesn't concern them. Well it does, but you know what I mean.
I'm quite sure the result will stand but I'm also quite sure Mercedes will try dragging this through the courts if they can.
Frostie
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Think you'd have to add Russell into the mix next year too.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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As a casual think it's a shambles that someone can be cruising to a win with only a few laps left and a crash basically means the 55 laps before didn't count, surely a fairer way to decide races where someone crashes late in those circumstances? I did see that a red flag could have been waved and it would have been 5 laps to go with both on new tyres which sounds like it would have been a better solution.
Although didn't really understand why mercedes didn't pit Hamilton again, surely they know something which is out of there control can happen to close the gap like the crash/safety car as it did and that it would leave Hamilton like a sitting duck for the last few laps on the worn out tyres?
Although didn't really understand why mercedes didn't pit Hamilton again, surely they know something which is out of there control can happen to close the gap like the crash/safety car as it did and that it would leave Hamilton like a sitting duck for the last few laps on the worn out tyres?
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Max would not have won today but had it given to him by the powers that be. That's it really. It's not rocket science. Or it it ?
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Alps ?
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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Nah - Russell will be a competent number 2. Bottas was nowhere near as helpful as Perez was
Paul Anthony
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Looks like result stands. I can see this ending up in court.
Si80
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I’m a massive Lewis fan, and the decision by the stewards / race director today was wrong on both the first lap incident and the safety car farce. I don’t begrudge Max winning the Championship this year. He’s been outstanding.
jordan210
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olderskyblue
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Never in doubt. They were never going to admit they cocked up
Paul Anthony
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Basically, if I'm reading it right, the crux of it is the race director has the ability to override the rules? Wow.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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So once the safety car is called in all other previous cock ups, contradictions, inconsistencies are made null and void.
Paul Anthony
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Mercedes appealing the result of the protest. I really think this is going to rumble on and on.
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thekidfromstrettoncamp
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What is the good of having rules and then overriding them? The race shoud have red flagged and restarted everybody wanted to see a race but a fair one. That was like your 4 -0 down but the next goal wins
But not on the race .
One of a whole season and no different from those that went before.
TwistAndShoutCCFC1987
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Real winner is formula 1. What a season. Both deserved to win it. Next season should be even better! Bring on sainz vs lewis vs charles vs russell vs max!
Houchens Head
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They should go to penalties!
olderskyblue
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It certainly feels like it was fixed yesterday.
Liquid Gold
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Not a hard fix like wrestling where everything is scripted but they flex the rule book to whatever seems most exciting.
just a really poor attempt at creating a spectacle to win over neutrals (like me) that has spectacularly backfired.