Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (122 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, of course people with Omicron will unfortunately be hospitalised and die. I can’t believe people are quoting low/zero figures when the variant has only just started spreading.

What we all need to know and hope the government/scientific advisors are honest about is; were these people vaccinated, how old were they and what’s the hospitalisation/mortality rate compared to delta

If it follows the pattern of previous new variants, vaccine efficacy against symptoms/infection will be reduced but protection against serious illness should remain unaffected. A critical difference compared to last year is of course that we only need people to get a booster for this effect as opposed to two jabs spaced apart.

Quietly confident

 

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[Deleted member 9744]

I'll be trying to book my booster for next week

I feel a bit aggrieved that I'll have had 3x covid jabs in 6 months and that I personally think the Omicron variant is overhyped by the UK media, but if it helps to do my bit to keep restrictions limited then so be it

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How can you feel aggrieved about being given a vaccination that might well save your life? This is ridiculous. I am exceptionally grateful to have received mine.

 

[Sick Boy]

Nobody in the world is going to hospital with this Moronic strain or even dying from it

People are in hospital with it in the UK.

 

[Kieranp96]

Yeah, of course people with Omicron will unfortunately be hospitalised and die. I can’t believe people are quoting low/zero figures when the variant has only just started spreading.

What we all need to know and hope the government/scientific advisors are honest about is; were these people vaccinated, how old were they and what’s the hospitalisation/mortality rate compared to delta

I read somewhere that 6 people dies of omicron in sa 2 via accidents and had covid but 4 actually covid 3 were between 30/40 1 was 60+, look at dr john campbell on youtube.

 

[baldy]

Leaked documents say apparently there’s gonna be a lockdown come January the 5th - absolutely ridiculous if true

 

[skybluetony176]

Leaked documents say apparently there’s gonna be a lockdown come January the 5th - absolutely ridiculous if true

Did you get that from the same source that told you no one is in hospital with the new variant?

 

[CCFCSteve]

Leaked documents say apparently there’s gonna be a lockdown come January the 5th - absolutely ridiculous if true

Yeah, I said something similar the other day. I’d heard 4th but . Feels like jumping the gun and hope it’s just a precautionary plan. For me it should depend on hospitalisations over next two weeks in conjunction with SA data

Rather that than before NYE though, at least it gives hospitality a chance by having a full xmas period !

We don’t know what measures they’re talking about either though. Might well be increased restrictions/measures rather than ‘lockdown’

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Mrs. Wisdom's workplace are having their meeting to decide whether the working from home where possible applies to them... tomorrow.

Nothing like a flexible working contract eh...

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Mrs. Wisdom's workplace are having their meeting to decide whether the working from home where possible applies to them... tomorrow.

Nothing like a flexible working contract eh...

Is she in a union NW?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Is she in a union NW?

She is - I made her join one a few months back.

 

[Sick Boy]

Mrs. Wisdom's workplace are having their meeting to decide whether the working from home where possible applies to them... tomorrow.

Nothing like a flexible working contract eh...

What gives them the power to decide? What does she do?

 

[CCFCSteve]

Mrs. Wisdom's workplace are having their meeting to decide whether the working from home where possible applies to them... tomorrow.

Nothing like a flexible working contract eh...

Surely it should be as simple as can she do her job as effectively at home. If yes, job done. Hope they see sense

 

[CCFCSteve]

530k boosters yesterday. Let’s hope we can keep that pace up this week

 

[Philosoraptor]

Talking about unions, Unison's NEC has been on fire recently.

Here is a portion of one NEC report.

"...We then moved to obituaries. One obituary resulted in a ‘final message’ from a deceased UNISON
member being read out by an NEC member. This message was to the effect that all the members of
the NEC were as bad as each other: ‘you’re all a pack of bastards’. ..."

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Talking about unions, Unison's NEC has been on fire recently.

Here is a portion of one NEC report.

"...We then moved to obituaries. One obituary resulted in a ‘final message’ from a deceased UNISON
member being read out by an NEC member. This message was to the effect that all the members of
the NEC were as bad as each other: ‘you’re all a pack of bastards’. ..."

The teaching unions haven’t really helped our cause by wanting everyone masked up all day, one way systems, staggered breaks etc. They should be campaigning for children not to have to isolate.

 

[Kieranp96]

Some Companys seem so shit, i aint in a union and ive worked from home since march 2020, im now working from Hungary until my contract is up, unless they want to hire me again on the basis i am living abroad.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Some Companys seem so shit, i aint in a union and ive worked from home since march 2020, im now working from Hungary until my contract is up, unless they want to hire me again on the basis i am living abroad.

When it comes to unreasonable working conditions that should be the union’s bread and butter. Hopefully they can intervene for NW’s missus.

 

[David O'Day]

Leaked documents say apparently there’s gonna be a lockdown come January the 5th - absolutely ridiculous if true

Covid: First people in UK hospitals with Omicron variant

The variant accounts for a third of infections in London, Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Lol at you

 

[Nick]

To be fair, if you read it they said it isn't confirmed they are in hospital because of the variant.....

Just depends how things get spun either way.

 

[baldy]

Covid: First people in UK hospitals with Omicron variant

The variant accounts for a third of infections in London, Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Lol at you

You do realise that people are getting tested over & over thus giving a high number of ‘cases’? You don’t like any opinion/fact that’s different from yours do you Mavis,I mean,David?

 

[baldy]

Did you get that from the same source that told you no one is in hospital with the new variant?

Why scoff at something that could possibly be true? You know otherwise then?

 

[clint van damme]

You do realise that people are getting tested over & over thus giving a high number of ‘cases’? You don’t like any opinion/fact that’s different from yours do you Mavis,I mean,David?

remember when you said more people die in car accidents that of covid?!!
You're a fucking idiot.

 

[baldy]

remember when you said more people die in car accidents that of covid?!!
You're a fucking idiot.

Am I wrong though? Calm down too…you look silly getting so angry

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

It is very difficult to have an open conversation about it as there is a lot of emotion involved I know, but about the age thing, people really do need to get some perspective. Of course, there are exceptions, and nothing is for granted, but have a look at these numbers here. This is regarding the data in the Netherlands which shows that since the beginning of time - 162 people have died of Covid under the age of 49.


Link here: Netherlands: coronavirus deaths by age 2021 | Statista

And before anyone says, ´so you don´t care about old people´, please don´t try that deflection. It is boring, juvenile, and not true.

 

[clint van damme]

Am I wrong though? Calm down too…you look silly getting so angry

yes you are, as was proved at the time, and proved now. I'm not angry, you're a cretin, that doesn't make me angry!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It is very difficult to have an open conversation about it as there is a lot of emotion involved I know, but about the age thing, people really do need to get some perspective. Of course, there are exceptions, and nothing is for granted, but have a look at these numbers here. This is regarding the data in the Netherlands which shows that since the beginning of time - 162 people have died of Covid under the age of 49.


Link here: Netherlands: coronavirus deaths by age 2021 | Statista

And before anyone says, ´so you don´t care about old people´, please don´t try that deflection. It is boring, juvenile, and not true.

But again, resources are taken up by hospitalisation too. My best mate's brother-in-law is 39 and not dead, but used up more resources than if he had been dead. It's also worth noting that figures would be depressed by the measures we've taken and, without them, they'd have been, and would be going forward, substantially higher.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

You do realise that people are getting tested over & over thus giving a high number of ‘cases’? You don’t like any opinion/fact that’s different from yours do you Mavis,I mean,David?

I've just realised how we stop people getting and dying from cancer!

If we stop testing and identifying it no-one can be said to have it or die from it.

No need to thank me - just glad to do my bit for mankind.

 

[David O'Day]

Am I wrong though? Calm down too…you look silly getting so angry

you just look silly. you said there was no one in Hospital wit the new variant and you were wrong you ugly dumb sad fucking weirdo

Get off the pipe mate

 

[Nick]

I've just realised how we stop people getting and dying from cancer!

If we stop testing and identifying it no-one can be said to have it or die from it.

No need to thank me - just glad to do my bit for mankind.

Again from the other side, if everybody was tested for flu instead and died within 28 days the flu deaths would shoot up.

Numbers can be manipulated either way.

I wish cancer could be tested for do easily though and so often.

 

[Philosoraptor]

Johnson is to make a speech at 20.00.

This is looking serious. It looks like they have needed to change the bulb.

Covid: UK alert level raised to four due to Omicron spread

Prime Minister Boris Johnson is due to give an update on the Covid booster programme at 20:00 GMT.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Nick]

To know truly. Need to know how serious it is. How ill are people from that and any deaths

 

[Philosoraptor]

Also,

"...Meanwhile, analysis by the UK Health Security Agency has showed a dramatic drop in effectiveness for the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine and a significant drop-off for two doses of Pfizer against Omicron.
But a third booster vaccine dose was analysed to prevent about 75% of people from getting any Covid symptoms. ..."

Covid: New restrictions in Wales likely within weeks

It comes as the first minister says Omicron could lead to "large numbers" of people in hospital.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[hill83]

If it ends up being Covid passes for pubs at least I can have a few jars in a Wetherspoons without some gimp on about 5G stinking of fags in my ear.

 

[Nick]

Also,

"...Meanwhile, analysis by the UK Health Security Agency has showed a dramatic drop in effectiveness for the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine and a significant drop-off for two doses of Pfizer against Omicron.
But a third booster vaccine dose was analysed to prevent about 75% of people from getting any Covid symptoms. ..."

Covid: New restrictions in Wales likely within weeks

It comes as the first minister says Omicron could lead to "large numbers" of people in hospital.

www.bbc.co.uk

Yeah that's strange wording.

That's saying booster effective against covid symptoms are saying about omicron.

 

[David O'Day]

If it ends up being Covid passes for pubs at least I can have a few jars in a Wetherspoons with some gimp on about 5G stinking of fags in my ear.

Aye the bell end population of pubs will be reduced