Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (182 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

No, think somebody has made an arse of that, maybe 200k cumulative infections to date

I reckon its guesswork. The ONS do figures for what they think is the level of infection is the UK, looks like the last figures were 891,500. Have they tried to work something up from there based on how much more transmissible it is and percentage of positive tests that are the new variant?

 

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[PVA]

No, think somebody has made an arse of that, maybe 200k cumulative infections to date

He said it in the commons earlier and there was confusion and it was assumed a mistake was made, like you say.

But they appear to have confirmed it this evening.

'based on modelling', but still...

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If it really is that many a day then it must have a very high asymptomatic rate compared to the other variants.

 

[wingy]

I guess we'll know with the next set of numbers from the ONS .
Last figures were 1:60

Maybe it would be handy to have the old rate per 100k published for each area again,compare like for like historical data.

 

[Nick]

Shock, the person who died tested for Omicron while in hospital.

Still, let's get everybody petrified because of selective wording and media who can't wait to scare everybody.

Raab on TV bullshitting too, even though it's confirmed to be wrong it's still headline news.

 

[Sick Boy]

Shock, the person who died tested for Omicron while in hospital.

Still, let's get everybody petrified because of selective wording and media who can't wait to scare everybody.

Raab on TV bullshitting too.

No one is petrified but you'd have to be stupid to think that the variant has next to no chance of killing people.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Shock, the person who died tested for Omicron while in hospital.

Still, let's get everybody petrified because of selective wording and media who can't wait to scare everybody.

Raab on TV bullshitting too, even though it's confirmed to be wrong it's still headline news.

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It's been the same for the other variants. What is your actual point?

 

[Ian1779]

Shock, the person who died tested for Omicron while in hospital.

Still, let's get everybody petrified because of selective wording and media who can't wait to scare everybody.

Raab on TV bullshitting too, even though it's confirmed to be wrong it's still headline news.

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So they had Omicron then.

 

[Nick]

It's been the same for the other variants. What is your actual point?

The point is, nobody has died from it. Yet again this morning there's been incorrect information sent to people as headline news.

Pretty obvious really.

 

[Nick]

So they had Omicron then.

They could have had a multitude of things they also didn't die from.

Fucking hell. It's laughable.

 

[Skybluefaz]

The point is, nobody has died from it. Yet again this morning there's been incorrect information sent to people as headline news.

Pretty obvious really.

So you want the goalposts moved then to make you feel better. Cheers, got you now.

 

[Nick]

So you want the goalposts moved then to make you feel better. Cheers, got you now.

No, just actual facts and information rather than just cleverly worded things and letting the media run with it.

It's almost as if some people have their fingers crossed for it.

There are currently 10 people in hospital with the Omicron variant of COVID - not 250, as Dominic Raab told Sky News.

The deputy prime minister later told the BBC that there were nine people in hospital with the variant.

But officials have clarified that Mr Raab "misspoke" on both occasions by getting his figures wrong and that there are currently 10 people in hospital with Omicron.

"Yeah but there probably will be 250 at some point so it's fine" is the logic some have on here.

 

[CCFCSteve]

No, just actual facts and information rather than just cleverly worded things and letting the media run with it.

It's almost as if some people have their fingers crossed for it.

I don’t think anyone’s keeping their fingers crossed for it Nick. This is a new shitstorm for everyone to varying degrees

I do agree about the need for government and media to be transparent and factual though. Like when hospitalisations were mentioned yesterday’s between 18-85 years old...that’s handy ! Were they hospitalised due to variant or already in hospital ? Had they been vaccinated and/or even boostered ?! These are really important questions/answers for when people are making decisions on going about their daily lives

Hopefully better info and data will come out later this week

 

[Nick]

I don’t think anyone’s keeping their fingers crossed for it Nick. This is a new shitstorm for everyone to varying degrees

I do agree about the need for government and media to be transparent and factual though. Like when hospitalisations were mentioned yesterday’s between 18-85 years old...that’s handy ! Were they hospitalised due to variant or already in hospital ? Had they been vaccinated and/or even boostered ?! These are really important questions/answers for when people are making decisions on going about their daily lives

Hopefully better info and data will come out later this week

They are very vague for a reason.

I think I saw that they were found to be positive in Hospital and mostly vaccinated.

Stuff like that doesn't make headlines to get everybody scared and backing covid passports though does it?

 

[Sick Boy]

The point is, nobody has died from it. Yet again this morning there's been incorrect information sent to people as headline news.

Pretty obvious really.

It'd be fucking stupid to not be cautious considering the lesson learnt so far just because no one has died from it, yet.

 

[Nick]

It'd be fucking stupid to not be cautious considering the lesson learnt so far just because no one has died from it, yet.

Being Cautious isn't my issue though, completely misleading is. It's very intentional as well.

 

[Ian1779]

They could have had a multitude of things they also didn't die from.

Fucking hell. It's laughable.

 

[Nick]

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It's hardly claiming to be an expert though, is it? It's fact.

 

[jordan210]

Great thread on the miss information that is pushes on TV

 

[jordan210]

 

[PVA]

I'm not sure why you're getting yourself in such a tizz, Nick.

They have reported this one Omicron death in the same way that all Covid deaths are reported which is 'deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid test'. They never say died of Covid.

 

[Nick]

"Yeah but it's better to mislead to scare people so they get a vaccine".

 

[jordan210]

I'm not sure why you're getting yourself in such a tizz, Nick.

They have reported this one Omicron death in the same way that all Covid deaths are reported which is 'deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid test'. They never say died of Covid.

To be fair to Nick. Some of the papers did put it down as death FROM not with.

Bit like Rabb today saying 250 patients in hospital with it then being correct that its 9 and Javid yesterday. Im sure its just harmless miss quoting figures.

 

[Nick]

They never say died of Covid.

You sure?

It's amazing how the hardcore political posters on here forget how to read sometimes, baffles me. It's what happens when people have a political bias.

 

[Nick]

To be fair to Nick. Some of the papers did put it down as death FROM not with.

Of course they did, literally within 2 or 3 hours it was headline news that somebody had died from it.

I posted them in this very thread. People have selective reading though and can't see the difference.

 

[PVA]

You sure?

It's amazing how the hardcore political posters on here forget how to read sometimes, baffles me. It's what happens when people have a political bias.

I can't read what I can't see.

I haven't seen any that say that.

I've just googled 'Omicron death' and clicked on 4 or 5 stories and all said 'died with Omicron'.

 

[PVA]

Oh shock. Just saw the Daily Mail said 'died of Omicron.'

Don't complain about misleading headlines if you're quoting the DM!

 

[Nick]

I can't read what I can't see.

I haven't seen any that say that.

I've just googled 'Omicron death' and clicked on 4 or 5 stories and all said 'died with Omicron'.

I posted examples in this very thread yesterday as it was obvious that's how it would be spun.

You can't see things you don't want to. It's very strange.

 

[Nick]

Oh shock. Just saw the Daily Mail said 'died of Omicron.'

Don't complain about misleading headlines if you're quoting the DM!

It wasn't just them, was it?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Great thread on the miss information that is pushes on TV

Very alarming is that.....its going to get increasingly difficult to argue against some of the anti-vax movements by suggesting they're being fed mis-information while all the MSM are pedalling it too.....its quickly becoming a fucking alarmist panic driven farce

 

[jordan210]

Very alarming is that.....its going to get increasingly difficult to argue against some of the anti-vax movements by suggesting they're being fed mis-information while all the MSM are pedalling it too.....its quickly becoming a fucking alarmist panic driven farce

The MSM/Gov have managed to engineer that anyone who doesn't follow the narrative is an Anti-vaxer and play people off against each other. All very clever.

Soon boosted people will be used to turn against 2 jabbed people and class them as unvaccinated.

 

[Saddlebrains]

So we're all at panic stations for something that's 30% less severe than what we're all at least double jabbed against.


this reaction at the minute stinks

 

[Sick Boy]

The MSM/Gov have managed to engineer that anyone who doesn't follow the narrative is an Anti-vaxer and play people off against each other. All very clever.

Soon boosted people will be used to turn against 2 jabbed people and class them as unvaccinated.

What is not following the narrative? Not being able to process that there’s a global pandemic that has killed millions of people?

 

[Nick]

The MSM/Gov have managed to engineer that anyone who doesn't follow the narrative is an Anti-vaxer and play people off against each other. All very clever.

Soon boosted people will be used to turn against 2 jabbed people and class them as unvaccinated.

You only have to look at this thread and others. On another thread somebody saying that people should give up their freedom if they aren't fully vaccinated.

As I said before, it really does remind me of the stuff closer to home with SISU / Council / Wasps. While every fucker was arguing about irrelevant things like if Joy was taking 100m a year (don't get me wrong, me included) it meant they weren't questioned about actual facts and going on.

What parties did Boris have though?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

What is not following the narrative? Not being able to process that there’s a global pandemic that has killed millions of people?

I think he was more refering to the fact that all of a sudden a 3rd booster is required, even for young heatlhy adults still overflowing with antibodies from the very recent 1st & 2nd jabs to protect us from a milder strain of covid from whcih most of the population are already vaccinated.....