Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (176 Viewers)

[Nick]

So to confirm, if my lft says negative and I cough at Christmas will my grandparents die? (If they were alive)

 

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[Tommo1993]

Had a silly little cold since last Tuesday, usually I’ll shake off a cold after 2-3 days. As far as colds can go, it’s piss poor, barely noticeable. It’s now just mainly a tickle cough.

LFT tests and PCR both negative, but I still get suspicious and pissed off glances if I cough in the shop. Don’t really think PCR is that reliable either tbh.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Had a silly little cold since last Tuesday, usually I’ll shake off a cold after 2-3 days. As far as colds can go, it’s piss poor, barely noticeable. It’s now just mainly a tickle cough.

LFT tests and PCR both negative, but I still get suspicious and pissed off glances if I cough in the shop. Don’t really think PCR is that reliable either tbh.

That last point respectfully is nonsense

 

[Tommo1993]

That last point respectfully is nonsense

Is it?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Is it?

Yes, given that it is able to detect viral DNA instead of just the spike protein and has been around as a technique for decades. If anything the bigger risk is a false positive depending on how many times the reaction cycle is done

 

[MusicDating]

Yeah think we spoke before about how big a miss live gigs were during the lockdowns....
....worse than no football for me personally.

The only positive I took from it was then when they were allowed again, the atmosphere and buzz were fantastic....proper old skool life-affirming in the moment gigs....

Lovely eggs and Jarvis my 2 stand outs from the gigs I've seen since/during covid....

Coronavirus...you can go now...

 

[Tommo1993]

Yes, given that it is able to detect viral DNA instead of just the spike protein and has been around as a technique for decades. If anything the bigger risk is a false positive depending on how many times the reaction cycle is done

Just don’t particularly feel any of it can be 100% relied up on

 

[Sick Boy]

The thing is though, people will see the list of symptoms and think they have it. Runny nose, aching, scratchy throat.

Imagine ringing a boss and saying they aren't going to work because they have a runny nose.

I'll be going to work regardless of how rough I feel and will do a lateral.

Pub worker 'fired after refusing to come in with Covid symptoms'

Rachael Baylis, who tested positive for the virus soon afterwards, fears she may have infected customers when she wasn't allowed to leave the day before.

metro.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Just don’t particularly feel any of it can be 100% relied up on

Nothing in life is certain, but a PCR test is as certain as you'll get.

 

[clint van damme]

So to confirm, if my lft says negative and I cough at Christmas will my grandparents die? (If they were alive)

how bad's your breath?

 

[Sick Boy]

I don't think I had covid, I think I had a cold and the LFT says I'm negative. What I'm saying is would a PCR test say the same thing? Plenty of cases (including a post today) where a LFT is negative but a PCR is positive

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This logic makes no sense whatsoever.
PCR tests are far more sensitive compared to LFs, so you could unknowingly be spreading covid to others all because you’re worried about your big day being ruined.
Fucking hell.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Just don’t particularly feel any of it can be 100% relied up on

If you want 100% certainty get a viral culture sample done.

 

[clint van damme]

I'm getting a massive feeling of deja vu, my head tells me there won't be a lock down, (would end Johnson surely), but it just feels like the lead up to the first one.

I really don't fancy the prospect to say the least.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'm getting a massive feeling of deja vu, my head tells me there won't be a lock down, (would end Johnson surely), but it just feels like the lead up to the first one.

I really don't fancy the prospect to say the least.

My gut feeling is he’s letting people have Christmas so he can take something away soon after. Though deep down even he probably doesn’t know.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

This logic makes no sense whatsoever.
PCR tests are far more sensitive compared to LFs, so you could unknowingly be spreading covid to others all because you’re worried about your big day being ruined.
Fucking hell.

I didn't have any covid symptoms and my LFT was negative, therefore I don't have covid, correct?

Anyone could be passing covid to anyone if they are asymptomatic, that's just the way it is with this virus

 

[Sick Boy]

I didn't have any covid symptoms and my LFT was negative, therefore I don't have covid, correct?

No idea, you were the one going on about avoiding doing a PCR in case you tested positive.

 

[Nick]

how bad's your breath?

Pure teacher coffee breath

 

[PVA]

Pub worker 'fired after refusing to come in with Covid symptoms'

Rachael Baylis, who tested positive for the virus soon afterwards, fears she may have infected customers when she wasn't allowed to leave the day before.

metro.co.uk

Wow what a tosser that boss is

 

[MusicDating]

When we get to the point that everyone who wants a booster has had one and everyone who has been offered the vaccine hasn't taken that offer, can we just say fk it and go back to normal? Otherwise what?!

 

[Nick]

When we get to the point that everyone who wants a booster has had one and everyone who has been offered the vaccine hasn't taken that offer, can we just say fk it and go back to normal? Otherwise what?!

Next varient. It's ok Pfizer are on it and saying you only need 5 more.

 

[chiefdave]

When we get to the point that everyone who wants a booster has had one and everyone who has been offered the vaccine hasn't taken that offer, can we just say fk it and go back to normal? Otherwise what?!

Given that no other pandemic has killed off the human race or gone on forever presumably they burn out at some point. Not sure there's any reliable way of calculating how long that could take though. How long have previous pandemics lasted for?

 

[stupot07]

I didn't have any covid symptoms and my LFT was negative, therefore I don't have covid, correct?

Anyone could be passing covid to anyone if they are asymptomatic, that's just the way it is with this virus

You said you had a cold. We know the government haven't updated the guidance.

Runny nose, headaches and fatigue are three of the most common early symptoms of Omicron.

Covid-19: Runny nose, headache, and fatigue are commonest symptoms of omicron, early data show

The UK government has been urged to update its list of symptoms for covid-19, after early data showed that cold-like symptoms were the most commonly reported by people with the new omicron variant. Data released on 16 December by the Covid Symptoms Study,1 run by the health science company Zoe...

www.bmj.com

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[Deleted member 5849]

Given that no other pandemic has killed off the human race or gone on forever presumably they burn out at some point. Not sure there's any reliable way of calculating how long that could take though. How long have previous pandemics lasted for?

Well... here's an interesting page!

Epidemics and isolation

Pandemicshavebeenafeatureofhumanhistoryforthousandsofyears,andStAlbanshasnotbeensparedIsolationwasoftentheonlyweaponagainstvirulentlyinfectiousdiseasesButitwasalsoachoicemadebysomereligiouspeople,liketheanchoressChristinaofMarkyate

www.stalbanshistory.org

Anyway, Government policy has always been whether the NHS can cope or not. No reason to suggest they'll deviate from that.

 

[Nick]

You said you had a cold. We know the government haven't updated the guidance.

Runny nose, headaches and fatigue are three of the most common early symptoms of Omicron.

Covid-19: Runny nose, headache, and fatigue are commonest symptoms of omicron, early data show

The UK government has been urged to update its list of symptoms for covid-19, after early data showed that cold-like symptoms were the most commonly reported by people with the new omicron variant. Data released on 16 December by the Covid Symptoms Study,1 run by the health science company Zoe...

www.bmj.com

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Which means they country collapses because 95% are isolating until they can get a PCR.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I can tell you all now what to expect based on what is happening here, as the Netherlands has been about a month ahead of the same pattern which is emerging in the UK. I mentioned earlier in the week that I think there will be a lockdown in the UK and I still stand by that. Ours has been going on over a month now and has been extended until January 14th. It absolutely sucks and is bringing me down a bit because everything closes at 5pm. I am supposed to go to the US for work in February which I was looking forward to too, but I suspect by the time it comes round it won´t go ahead.

I decided now to stay here for Christmas too. Probably we should have a match day style thread for Christmas day and all the expats or people that are generally a bit alone and just have one big drinking session/argument extravaganza.

 

[robbiekeane]

Fucking NHS app is bullshit. Did a lateral flow test. Registered the result. Clicked covid pass on the NHS app. It asks me to login. Login. Then it just takes me to this page.

It’s on a fucking loop.

waste of fucking time. Shit show of a country at the minute

 

[Ian1779]

When we get to the point that everyone who wants a booster has had one and everyone who has been offered the vaccine hasn't taken that offer, can we just say fk it and go back to normal? Otherwise what?!

If we are serious about eliminating it and moving on we need to push to get the developing world vaccinated ASAP.

 

[SBT]

I am supposed to go to the US for work in February which I was looking forward to too, but I suspect by the time it comes round it won’t go ahead

The US is only letting in fully vaccinated travellers, right?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I can tell you all now what to expect based on what is happening here, as the Netherlands has been about a month ahead of the same pattern which is emerging in the UK. I mentioned earlier in the week that I think there will be a lockdown in the UK and I still stand by that. Ours has been going on over a month now and has been extended until January 14th. It absolutely sucks and is bringing me down a bit because everything closes at 5pm. I am supposed to go to the US for work in February which I was looking forward to too, but I suspect by the time it comes round it won´t go ahead.

I decided now to stay here for Christmas too. Probably we should have a match day style thread for Christmas day and all the expats or people that are generally a bit alone and just have one big drinking session/argument extravaganza.

I’ve planned out a nice day for myself, nothing too much cooking wise. After having to be on my own last time it’s nowhere near as bad as the societal pressure suggests.

 

[Houchens Head]

@Houchens Head you alright?

Man kicked off flight for wearing women's underwear as face mask

Adam Jenne was ordered to disembark the United Airlines flight following his stunt -which he suggests illustrates the "absurdity" of having to wear a face covering on a plane until it reaches cruising altitude.

news.sky.com

I'm fine, ta!

 

[MusicDating]

If we are serious about eliminating it and moving on we need to push to get the developing world vaccinated ASAP.

And when their take up is 50%?

 

[Deleted member 9744]

If we are serious about eliminating it and moving on we need to push to get the developing world vaccinated ASAP.

Absolutely this is the answer but the problem at the moment is we have a set of leaders who are short sighted and whose popularity is based on nationalism, so international cooperation is not likely. Same with climate change unfortunately. The worst leaders at the worst possible time, especially ours.

 

[Sick Boy]

If we are serious about eliminating it and moving on we need to push to get the developing world vaccinated ASAP.

…sadly it’s likely only a minority understand this and actually care about it.

 

[Sick Boy]

Absolutely this is the answer but the problem at the moment is we have a set of leaders who are short sighted and who's popularity is based on nationalism, so international cooperation is not likely. Same with climate change unfortunately. The worst leaders at the worst possible time, especially ours.

The pandemic has also highlighted that too many people are self-centred and only care about themselves.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The US is only letting in fully vaccinated travellers, right?

Yes, correct. What is your point?