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Brighton Sky Blue

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Strong 'Needless to say, I had the last laugh' energy.

He says it having erased the memory of his claims on myocarditis. He also curiously hasn’t addressed the bizarre ‘restraining order’ post
 

CCFCSteve

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After many posts on the subject I've just tested positive on an LFT. Very strong line very quickly.

I don't have the classic symptoms (aside from an irregular cough) but just feel like I've got a head cold at the minute.

Think I’ve said before almost everyone will get Omicron, unless they’re a hermit. Hope you’re ok Fernando, think you’ll fully jabbed so expect you’ll be fine in a few days
 

hill83

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After many posts on the subject I've just tested positive on an LFT. Very strong line very quickly.

I don't have the classic symptoms (aside from an irregular cough) but just feel like I've got a head cold at the minute.

Hope it stays like a cold mate. I first tested purely because I’d just got a delivery of tests. Felt absolutely fine and was shocked to be positive.

Think I’m coming out the other side now. Feel much better today.
 

wingy

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Let's hope so
I think so and wondered prior to the current run, although he says he feels it was right to go through the current round.
I think it's only natural to wonder when the Oxford Dame wasn't for rushing straight to boosting.
 

We'll_live_and_die

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I tested neg yesterday and today, days 6&7 so I’ve been out for a run this morning. Blinking hard work but glad to be over it without really being ill. I was knackered for two days and had a cold/sore throat but genuinely had a worse cold just before Christmas.
 

David O'Day

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I think so and wondered prior to the current run, although he says he feels it was right to go through the current round.
I think it's only natural to wonder when the Oxford Dame wasn't for rushing straight to boosting.

It's utter bollocks vaccines are still the best weapon against a virus pandemic
 

wingy

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It's utter bollocks vaccines are still the best weapon against a virus pandemic
Well let's see I would like to see the results of studies,there is a residual benefit from the long-term memory of these cells ,regards the antibody side of things I don't think there is anything out of order to see to ascertain whether t or b cell's do indeed do the long-term heavy lifting.

I think he was saying other vax's such as valnova be were better from that perspective.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Clive Dix B +T cell's.

No more jab jab jab in the wider population.

Makes sense really. He's right in that we need to focus on management of the disease, not continue with the now clearly futile measures to reduce spread....especially as the vast majority now have protection from vaccines or previous infection.

I also read they plan to stop the supply of free LFT kits to all but vulnerable settings.....good. should stop feeding this addiction to asymptomatic testing that has gripped many folks.

....added bonuses include a reduction in "cases" and single use plastics. Win win win.
 
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Well let's see I would like to see the results of studies,there is a residual benefit from the long-term memory of these cells ,regards the antibody side of things I don't think there is anything out of order to see to ascertain whether t or b cell's do indeed do the long-term heavy lifting.

I think he was saying other vax's such as valnova be were better from that perspective.
It's worth noting that what AZ wanted to do was wait and gather the evidence about boosters before going into them, not that they thought automatically that they weren't worthwhile. Of course politically, it's not really possible for a government to wait for the evidence as, by definition, when you get the evidence of how long the vaccines last for,it's too late! And that's political suicide...

Also seems with hindsight boosters have indeed been needed, and been effective
 

CCFCSteve

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Yeah, boosters appear to have been the correct shout especially with the drop off in vaccine efficacy for oldies coming into winter. Also because Omicron appears to evade natural immunity and has been so transmissible. Not sure the reduction to three month gap between second dose and booster for say under 30/40s was needed but we’ll never know

Hopefully going forwards with a level of vaccine immunity and the amount of natural immunity from Omicron, vaccines/boosters can be more focussed on higher risk but that depends on any new variants I guess.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Makes sense really. He's right in that we need to focus on management of the disease, not continue with the now clearly futile measures to reduce spread....especially as the vast majority now have protection from vaccines or previous infection.

Part of management of a disease is measures to reduce spread. "Coughs and sneezes spread diseases"
 

Nick

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Bloke who was involved with setting up the vaccine plan now saying just vaccinate the vulnerable and try to get back to normal.
 
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Senior research fellow in infetious diseases, meanwhile, says learning to live with Covid involves learning to know when you need restrictions in place.

Currently, it's sorting things out and sitting tight to see how numbers fall down.
 

Nick

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Senior research fellow in infetious diseases, meanwhile, says learning to live with Covid involves learning to know when you need restrictions in place.

Currently, it's sorting things out and sitting tight to see how numbers fall down.

Yeah let's sit tight until nobody gets it, ever.
 

stupot07

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Bloke who was involved with setting up the vaccine plan now saying just vaccinate the vulnerable and try to get back to normal.
He also said in May 2021 that there would be no covid circulating in the UK by August 2021, so its probably not worth taking what he says too seriously.

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He also said in May 2021 that there would be no covid circulating in the UK by August 2021, so its probably not worth taking what he says too seriously.

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It's always easy to find people who'll back up whatever you want to happen. Best bet is to let it all settle down just atm, and actually wait to see what happens. Otherwise there'll be whining and whinging that the goalposts have moved.
 

Nick

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We'll_live_and_die

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Without data on number of people who “have died from covid” not died within 28days it’s impossible to say if we are at the point where it’s not a problem anymore. Certainly my experience in the past week is not something we should be locking ourselves away for any period of time for.
 

Nick

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Yeah but what will happen is that the blame will be on unvaccinated people rather than those at the top.

The NHS has been ruined by the unvaccinated.
 

CCFCSteve

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Yeah but what will happen is that the blame will be on unvaccinated people rather than those at the top.

The NHS has been ruined by the unvaccinated.

Not really but if everyone had been as selfish and refused the vaccine, the NHS would’ve collapsed and/or we’d all be stuck in a strick lockdown for weeks or months

The unvaccinated have added an unnecessary and avoidable additional burden during the NHS’ busiest time of year when theyre already hugely stretched by massive staff absences
 

shmmeee

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Not really but if everyone had been as selfish and refused the vaccine, the NHS would’ve collapsed and/or we’d all be stuck in a strick lockdown for weeks or months

The unvaccinated have added an unnecessary and avoidable additional burden during the NHS’ busiest time of year when theyre already hugely stretched by massive staff absences

Like all libertarians they’re a bunch of babies freeloading off every else’s hard work.
 

skybluetony176

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Oh dear.
I bet there was a heavy scent of inferiority about penis size in the air mixed with INCEL and no doubt lots of conversation about how they’re not allowed to see their own children and why the divorce was all their ex wives fault as she’s a psycho.
 

Nick

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Oh dear.

What a bunch of weirdos. Bet they were TAs.

Targeting schools? Hopefully they get a slap as soon as they turn up.

If they want to kick off, kick off at the decision makers. Not a nurse or teacher.
 

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