USSR invades Ukraine. (119 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

That thread posted there could apply to many facets of life in the UK, a country completely subjugated to the city of London.

 

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[PVA]

Tsymbaliuk, the UNIAN correspondent in Moscow, has apparently reported General Ershov, the commander of the 6th General Army, has been placed under house arrest due to huge losses in Ukraine.

Listened to a podcast with Lieutenant General Richard Nugee earlier in the week and he spoke about the generals who have been killed in action in Ukraine, his take was that people that far up the chain are only on the front line if things have gone badly wrong.

I believe it's Russian doctrine to have Generals on or near the front line.

 

[skybluetony176]

Remarkable coverage from the BBC. Even if Putin could take the whole country how does he expect to hold it with this type of resistance.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Remarkable coverage from the BBC. Even if Putin could take the whole country how does he expect to hold it with this type of resistance.

Yeah, that’s always been the case, even if he had overthrown government in a few days and replaced it, how do you maintain control without mass genocide ?! It would take tens or hundreds of thousands of troops.

Shambolic and totally ill thought through unless there’s something I’m missing or he genuinely thought enough Ukrainians would welcome the Russians in (bizarre as it sounds I’ve wondered if intelligence just told him what he wanted to hear)

Such an unnecessary waste of life

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yeah, that’s always been the case, even if he had overthrown government in a few days and replaced it, how do you maintain control without mass genocide ?! It would take tens or hundreds of thousands of troops.

Shambolic and totally ill thought through unless there’s something I’m missing or he genuinely thought enough Ukrainians would welcome the Russians in (bizarre as it sounds I’ve wondered if intelligence just told him what he wanted to hear)

Such an unnecessary waste of life

And property and the sovereignty of Ukraine

 

[PVA]

 

[Flying Fokker]

NATO Doubles Troop Presence in Eastern Europe Ahead of Summit - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

And so to find out what a Battlegroup is?

British Army - Formations - Battlegroups and Company Groups - Task Group - Armed Forces a3a7

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He’s not wrong

 

[CCFCSteve]

The shambles continues…

Another senior Russian commander killed
Defence minister disappeared
Up to 15k troops dead
Army being pushed back due to lack of supplies
Ministerial aides fleeing Russia
Think even Putins yachts been seized

Probably still be given rights to hold 2028 European championship ahead of U.K. and Ireland but surely questions are starting to be asked in Russia ?!

 

[AOM]

Obviously it's the outcome we all want, but Putin losing this war also worries me.
I can't imagine coming back to Russia empty handed and looking weak is an option for someone like him

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Obviously it's the outcome we all want, but Putin losing this war also worries me.
I can't imagine coming back to Russia empty handed and looking weak is an option for someone like him

Equall, if he's toppled by force, an unstable Russia could be a very dangerous place to exist.

There appear to only be least bad conclusions to this, really.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

You can see them losing everything they’ve gained, including crimea if it carried on like this. Need some good old proper statesmanship to find a solution that works for all

 

[skybluetony176]

Obviously it's the outcome we all want, but Putin losing this war also worries me.
I can't imagine coming back to Russia empty handed and looking weak is an option for someone like him

He’ll blag it. And with the complaint media he’ll achieve it.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He’ll blag it. And with the complaint media he’ll achieve it.

Complaint media is a great idea.

 

[AOM]

He’ll blag it. And with the complaint media he’ll achieve it.

Be interesting to see how they could spin it though.
Potentially up to 15,000 dead and seemingly nothing gained so far. Can't see them holding any Ukrainian cities either

 

[AOM]

Complaint media is a great idea.

Tune into the after-match phone in most Saturdays on CWR

 

[Otis]

Tune into the after-match phone in most Saturdays on CWR

....where Clive refers to it as compliant media and calls the war, a war between the Prussians and Ugandans

 

[Kieranp96]

Even though they're losing troops and vehicles like no Tommorow the war has far more Ukrainian civilians, mass graves being dug, not only that Russia has stupid amounts of troops they will win eventually, reminds me of the Okinawa, Japs held out for weeks when it was suppose to be a 2 day job losing thousands of marines for nothing.

 

[xcraigx]

 

[Flying Fokker]

He’s not wrong

He may not be wrong. But war in Europe is closer to home. I wonder if they’re taking note of the Ukraine conflict. I guess they are still focusing on their own back yard.

 

[Flying Fokker]

Berdyansk disaster hits Black Sea Fleet capabilities | Shephard

As the Russian Navy assesses the damage from explosions and ship fires at the occupied port of Berdyansk, the strategic consequences for the Black Sea Fleet could be severe.

www.shephardmedia.com

 

[Flying Fokker]

Zarah Sultana MP

@zarahsultana
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BP and Shell are set to make profits worth £40,000,000,000 this year. Let's put a windfall tax on these companies and use that funding to stop energy bills rising.

 

[wingy]

Bit of reading .
Part of the background.

The Ambassador Caught Between Ukraine and Trump

In her first major interview since testifying against Trump, Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, discusses Russia’s war on Ukraine and Trump’s attack on her.

www.newyorker.com

 

[Flying Fokker]

Shocking moment four Russian helicopters shot down in Ukraine

In unverified footage released by Ukraine Minister of Defence, four K-52 attack helicopters are targeted

www.coventrytelegraph.net

Ka-52 Alligator / Ka-52K Katran Attack Helicopter

Ka-52 Alligator is an all-weather attack helicopter operated by the Russian Air Force. Developed by Kamov Design Bureau (part of Russian Helicopters), Ka-52 is a twin-seat variant of the Ka-50 atta…

thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com

 

[Flying Fokker]

 

[Flying Fokker]

And this:

Putin the fruitcake. Their so called experts war mongering. WW3 fears as Russia warns of 'universal nuclear war' if West defends Ukraine

 

[PVA]

Erm, quite a lot has changed since 1990 Sergey.

 

[duffer]

Erm, quite a lot has changed since 1990 Sergey.

This being the same Soviet Union that guaranteed Ukraine's territorial integrity if they gave up their nuclear arsenal.

Putin's excuse for breaking that agreement is that the USSR no longer exists, I believe. Cuts both ways, does that.

 

[Flying Fokker]

Erm, quite a lot has changed since 1990 Sergey.

Erm. Labrov of all people should know about breaking treaties. Not to mention Crimea. This whole thing is boiling up.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Erm, quite a lot has changed since 1990 Sergey.

Normal bullies changing rules and picking parts they want to ensure everyone to stick to whilst not even following the most simple clear rules themselves

 

[Flying Fokker]

Ukraine war latest: Nato to send 40,000 more troops to Eastern Europe - BBC News

 

[Houchens Head]

Has everyone got their bunker sorted if it kicks off?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I'll be up for throwing a few molotovs too....

Not sure I'd be in the queue for an ak47 for armed resistance....Last time I held an air rifle, I was nearly tasered by the merseyside matrix team....true story.

I'm a fucking dab hand with a nerf gun mind.

 

[Flying Fokker]

Has everyone got their bunker sorted if it kicks off?

I spent a few minutes thinking about it. Decided that it is not worth it. I'll just emigrate to Scotland. Sturgeon will take refugees in. We only need half a dozen nukes in England and we are dust anyway. London, Birmingham, Manchester Newcastle... Portsmouth, Plymouth. Having said that about Scotland I think the nuclear subs will be based up there normally. Maybe the safest place would be New Zealand? I wonder if they take boat people in?

 

[tisza]

Has everyone got their bunker sorted if it kicks off?

16-50 year olds here put on notice they'll be called up if Russia decides to "wander" across the border.