Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (39 Viewers)

skyblueinBaku

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If anyone is in the same position as me and needs LFTs for care home visits this twitter account is pretty handy:
I managed to order a set of tests last night at 8:15. Thanks for the link to that Twitter page @chiefddave.
 

chiefdave

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I managed to order a set of tests last night at 8:15. Thanks for the link to that Twitter page @chiefddave.
they seem to restock at 8pm every night but they're generally gone in a couple of hours. they do randomly become available during the day but 8pm every night so far since I started following that account.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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My local comprehensive has gone back to "hybrid part-time learning" sending every year group to "work from home" 1 day per week.......fucking joke.

Why are we still alllowing Covid to fuck up kids lives? Just stop fucking testing FFS.....
 

Sick Boy

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I had a full on argument with my barber yesterday because I coughed twice during my appointment and he got annoyed and said I was endangering him, his family etc.
I mean, come on.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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My local comprehensive has gone back to "hybrid part-time learning" sending every year group to "work from home" 1 day per week.......fucking joke.

Why are we still alllowing Covid to fuck up kids lives? Just stop fucking testing FFS.....
Why? It’s still been part of 1000 deaths in the last 7 days. Sure many have just a cold but others it causes significant poorliness and more
 

CCFCSteve

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Why? It’s still been part of 1000 deaths in the last 7 days. Sure many have just a cold but others it causes significant poorliness and more

Do take into account though Pete that covids obviously really prevalent at the moment, so more people dying with other ailments will obviously have Covid. Covid might have had nothing to do with many of the reported deaths, it’s just noted that they have tested positive in the last 30 days.

I’m sure I heard a figure recently that 50% of those deaths had nothing to do with Covid whatsoever but can’t recall for certain.

That’s not to say we should ignore it but the figures are badly skewed at the moment due to the prevalence. Most people who have been fully jabbed are at negligible risk from Covid

ps another crazy rule/guidance is that operations are delayed until 30 days post positive test…this is crazy, especially with such a backlog. You can imagine the costs involved in the number of cancelled ops. Let’s just shovel more cash into the money pit
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Do take into account though Pete that covids obviously really prevalent at the moment, so more people dying with other ailments will obviously have Covid. Covid might have had nothing to do with many of the reported deaths, it’s just noted that they have tested positive in the last 30 days.

I’m sure I heard a figure recently that 50% of those deaths had nothing to do with Covid whatsoever but can’t recall for certain.

That’s not to say we should ignore it but the figures are badly skewed at the moment due to the prevalence. Most people who have been fully jabbed are at negligible risk from Covid

ps another crazy rule is that operations are delayed until 30 days post positive test…this is crazy, especially with such a backlog. You can imagine the costs involved in the number of cancelled ops. Let’s just shovel more cash into the money pit
I completely agree!!

It won’t kill you but it floored me for 3-4 days and 2 and a half weeks later I’m still coughing and tired. It’s daft to pretend there’s nothing to it when that’s not true. It’s also daft to have 30 days limit when it’s so prevalent if it doesn’t affect recovery from any medical treatment. If it does affect recovery it sounds very sensible

As I say I’m a fit 50 year old with no other conditions, fully vaxed and it floored me
 

CCFCSteve

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I completely agree!!

It won’t kill you but it floored me for 3-4 days and 2 and a half weeks later I’m still coughing and tired. It’s daft to pretend there’s nothing to it when that’s not true. It’s also daft to have 30 days limit when it’s so prevalent if it doesn’t affect recovery from any medical treatment. If it does affect recovery it sounds very sensible

As I say I’m a fit 50 year old with no other conditions, fully vaxed and it floored me

Fair point about impact on post op recovery. I think it’s general guidance from BMI about 30 day delay but agree

edit - non essential ops obviously
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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Fair point about impact on post op recovery. I think it’s general guidance from BMI about 30 day delay but agree
Friend has just come back from lanzarote and all inside activity requires a mask. Removing all restrictions and mitigations seems so foolhardy especially given my experience of it
 

Sick Boy

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Friend has just come back from lanzarote and all inside activity requires a mask. Removing all restrictions and mitigations seems so foolhardy especially given my experience of it
It’s the same in here. A lot of the British people on my flight instantly removed their masks once off the plane and inside the airport though.
 

Sick Boy

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You don’t think not testing and walking around and expelling viral load by coughing (assuming you are covid positive) is putting someone at risk of catching the virus??? Or am I misunderstanding your point?
Bizarrely he had no issue with me going there while my GF was positive as long as I had no symptoms.
 

Grendel

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Friend has just come back from lanzarote and all inside activity requires a mask. Removing all restrictions and mitigations seems so foolhardy especially given my experience of it

It isn’t. There are hardly any icu beds now taken up with the disease - vaccinated people are very unlikely to be at risk to life now
 

Grendel

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You don’t think not testing and walking around and expelling viral load by coughing (assuming you are covid positive) is putting someone at risk of catching the virus??? Or am I misunderstanding your point?

Catching tbe virus that now virtually doesn’t kill anyone?
 

shmmeee

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Has anyone seen any good data on the impact of remote learning? My eldest absolutely loved it and learned far more in a quiet environment than a classroom she says, my youngest really missed the socialisation as she doesn’t have a mobile and WhatsApp to stay in touch and is far less capable of self guided learning.

Would be really interested to see some data split by age group as to the actual impact, seems to be a lot of gnashing of teeth about kids being fucked up but not a lot of light on the subject short of questionable self reported mental health surveys.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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My youngest has it for the second time in the last few months and he probably had it at the very beginning but they didn’t test as they said it wasn’t worth it. He has no symptoms again but my wife who is a nurse has to stop off for ten days now and they if any more get it in the house the ten days starts again unless she gets it and then it’s only five days, she is testing negative but she doesn’t get good results from the lft or the pcr which always comes back inconclusive.
 

Sick Boy

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Has anyone seen any good data on the impact of remote learning? My eldest absolutely loved it and learned far more in a quiet environment than a classroom she says, my youngest really missed the socialisation as she doesn’t have a mobile and WhatsApp to stay in touch and is far less capable of self guided learning.

Would be really interested to see some data split by age group as to the actual impact, seems to be a lot of gnashing of teeth about kids being fucked up but not a lot of light on the subject short of questionable self reported mental health surveys.
My nephew is going on 6 and seems to have been really badly impacted by it.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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It isn’t. There are hardly any icu beds now taken up with the disease - vaccinated people are very unlikely to be at risk to life now
Is that all your bloody bothered about? Death? Ffs there are some gradients of poorliness that are good to avoid short of death surely
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Has anyone seen any good data on the impact of remote learning? My eldest absolutely loved it and learned far more in a quiet environment than a classroom she says, my youngest really missed the socialisation as she doesn’t have a mobile and WhatsApp to stay in touch and is far less capable of self guided learning.

Would be really interested to see some data split by age group as to the actual impact, seems to be a lot of gnashing of teeth about kids being fucked up but not a lot of light on the subject short of questionable self reported mental health surveys.
Thought the government had stats about the number of months pupils are behind with maths and English. Its different depending on socio economic class which is probably why your daughter excelled
 

Grendel

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Is that all your bloody bothered about? Death? Ffs there are some gradients of poorliness that are good to avoid short of death surely

So we should do what with illnesses such as the NORA virus or severe inluenza? The same?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Has anyone seen any good data on the impact of remote learning? My eldest absolutely loved it and learned far more in a quiet environment than a classroom she says, my youngest really missed the socialisation as she doesn’t have a mobile and WhatsApp to stay in touch and is far less capable of self guided learning.

Would be really interested to see some data split by age group as to the actual impact, seems to be a lot of gnashing of teeth about kids being fucked up but not a lot of light on the subject short of questionable self reported mental health surveys.
I have thought it'd be different for every individual.

In terms of actual learning probably the quieter, more studious kids have flourished having the opportunity to spend time doing it without all the nonsense of playground politics and peer pressure. Others will just get distracted and without someone to try and focus them will fall back.

In a way it would be interesting to see what each kid had done during that time to give an idea of how to motivate and get the best from them.

One thing for certain is that all of the kids will have suffered in terms of personal development without the socialisation.
 

shmmeee

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I have thought it'd be different for every individual.

In terms of actual learning probably the quieter, more studious kids have flourished having the opportunity to spend time doing it without all the nonsense of playground politics and peer pressure. Others will just get distracted and without someone to try and focus them will fall back.

In a way it would be interesting to see what each kid had done during that time to give an idea of how to motivate and get the best from them.

One thing for certain is that all of the kids will have suffered in terms of personal development without the socialisation.

Would be interesting to see, I wouldn’t be averse to allowing older kids some work from home time in theory. Given the right kids of course, which is the rub.
 

Grendel

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Yes we should isolate as we do when we have both of those, the advantage with covid is we have a simple test if we have symptoms. What’s the problem with that?

because isolating people who have no symptoms or very minor ones and are not I’ll will bring businesses to a standstill - we test far more than any country don’t we in Europe? It’s now counter-productive
 

Sky Blue Pete

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because isolating people who have no symptoms or very minor ones and are not I’ll will bring businesses to a standstill - we test far more than any country don’t we in Europe? It’s now counter-productive
That’s a fair opinion. But why not test when you have symptoms and isolate while you are expelling a viral load? No one is isolating without symptoms unless they are taking regular tests which is why 1 in 15 people in England currently have the virus

And there’s 17000 in hospital , granted half of them in hospital for other reasons other than for Covid with a few hundred in icu. We are managing it well but have removed all mitigations. Which is where this started as someone was saying a school was wrong to deliver virtual learning one day a week for certain pupils.
 

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