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skybluetony176

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Guys, the Tories haven't actually been in charge for 12 years. I think it's about time they got a chance to govern.



His get out is the Tories barely had a majority for the past 12 years. Problem is when they didn’t have a majority they were markedly better than they have been since they’ve had a majority. Even under May they were more effective at governing. I don’t think that is the defence he thinks it is.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Wait. Did he drop out … for the good of the party??
Nope.

IF he did have enough votes he was definitely given or promised something pretty good to drop out. No way does someone like Johnson do something for the good of others. he does things for his own benefit and gratification - nothing else.
 

Sick Boy

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Is that you Tony ?! 😊. There might be a small part but probably tiny in grand scheme of things

This was on a finance programme I saw the other day (im a dull man I know !) I think France and Spain are around 7-8% due to government assistance/suppression of energy costs. I’ve not fact checked but recognise the Holland and Germany numbers


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What about the other countries? It looks a bit selective. 🧐
 
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shmmeee

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See the latest polling has Labour up again and Sunak just below Starmer in best PM. Blip or honeymoon over?
 

shmmeee

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Genuine question. Is there a single metric of success that has gone up under the Tories? Just one?

Edit: unemployment I guess? Though they did take over just after a global recession.

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chiefdave

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Genuine question. Is there a single metric of success that has gone up under the Tories? Just one?

Edit: unemployment I guess? Though they did take over just after a global recession.

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I'm always slightly dubious of the unemployment figures, seems to be regular changes to how they're measured and not sure they really allow you to make much of a comparison. You can be on a zero hours contact barely getting any hours and be classed as employed as far as the figures go.

The different sets of figures, unemployment, employment, payrolled, economically inactive etc don't always seem consistent with each other.

For example in the latest figures the employment rate fell but the number of payrolled employees and self employed rose
 

skybluetony176

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I'm always slightly dubious of the unemployment figures, seems to be regular changes to how they're measured and not sure they really allow you to make much of a comparison. You can be on a zero hours contact barely getting any hours and be classed as employed as far as the figures go.

The different sets of figures, unemployment, employment, payrolled, economically inactive etc don't always seem consistent with each other.

For example in the latest figures the employment rate fell but the number of payrolled employees and self employed rose
Like you say, it depends on how you measure it with things like zero hours contracts screwing the data. When you quote the employment rates zero hours contracts should be quoted hand in hand as should the amount of people working who claim in work benefits at it tells you a lot about the quality of employment in the UK.
 

skybluetony176

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I see another one of Boris’ madcap vanity projects has been dumped. The Royal Yacht is no more. Was set to cost at least £250M. Wonder if it’s already cost us millions without happening like most of his hare-brained ideas.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I see another one of Boris’ madcap vanity projects has been dumped. The Royal Yacht is no more. Was set to cost at least £250M. Wonder if it’s already cost us millions without happening like most of his hare-brained ideas.

I’d like to know how much we’ve spent in total on the Brexit department since creating it
 

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