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Evo1883

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someone on the Guardian Football Pod made a good point, it's all well and good him coming on spraying passes around against poor teams but he's likely to struggle with the positional and defensive side of being a midfielder
If he plays with walker behind him then there's no issues imo
 

Paul Anthony

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someone on the Guardian Football Pod made a good point, it's all well and good him coming on spraying passes around against poor teams but he's likely to struggle with the positional and defensive side of being a midfielder against better opposition

I can see their point certainly, but I'd say that it's less critical than if he were playing in his old position, because at least in midfield he's got people behind him to cover him when he does get it wrong.
 

Evo1883

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Enjoyable watch England are tonight , usually boring even against shite .

Have a swagger about them
 

David O'Day

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If he plays with walker behind him then there's no issues imo
There's loads of issues, walker will have his own player and if he is playing in midfield he isn't always going to be stood just in front of a right back. He's going to have to track across the pitch.
 

David O'Day

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I can see their point certainly, but I'd say that it's less critical than if he were playing in his old position, because at least in midfield he's got people behind him to cover him when he does get it wrong.
So when he looses his man and he's suddenly free in the box that's not critical?

He's doesn't play midfield for a reason
 

stupot07

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There's loads of issues, walker will have his own player and if he is playing in midfield he isn't always going to be stood just in front of a right back. He's going to have to track across the pitch.
He had zero pressure on the ball in possession in these two games, completely different against top tier sides who are going to press and set traps, and then in possession move the ball quickly and make runs off the back of him.

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David O'Day

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You not feel like he's played well ?

Played fantastic for Liverpool later stages of the season when klopp gave him the new role too .
He's played well against a woeful team where he has time and space and there's a very big difference between playing as an inverted fullback who stands in midfield when liverpool have the ball but moves back to RB when they don't and being an international class 10
 

Evo1883

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He's played well against a woeful team where he has time and space and there's a very big difference between playing as an inverted fullback who stands in midfield when liverpool have the ball but moves back to RB when they don't and being an international class 10
In all fairness , he got a ton of assists when he pushed into midfield in the Premier league

7 assists in his last 10 matches (prem)
 

David O'Day

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it'll be a very different game for him if he plays in midfield against say France, Germany, Spain etc where even before you have even touched the ball you have been closed down

almost anyway the person who is actually going to play the big games in his position is Jude Fucking Bellingham
 

Evo1883

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it'll be a very different game for him if he plays in midfield against say France, Germany, Spain etc where even before you have even touched the ball you have been closed down

almost anyway the person who is actually going to play the big games in his position is Jude Fucking Bellingham
Well yes jude bellingham will start for England, there's plenty of opportunity to introduce trent into a midfield 3 still . These games are definitely worth trying things ..
 

mark82

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Whilst I agree North Macedonia aren't world beaters, they aren't a bad side. Knocked Italy out of the world cup, beat Germany too. This will be a record defeat for them.
 

Evo1883

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Whilst I agree North Macedonia aren't world beaters, they aren't a bad side. Knocked Italy out of the world cup, beat Germany too. This will be a record defeat for them.
Like I said I think England have been an enjoyable watch tonight
 

David O'Day

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Whilst I agree North Macedonia aren't world beaters, they aren't a bad side. Knocked Italy out of the world cup, beat Germany too. This will be a record defeat for them.
They are a bad side, 2 freak results don't change that
 

LastGarrison

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Enjoyable watch England are tonight , usually boring even against shite .

Have a swagger about them
Madness that we have also brought the quality of players such as Grealish, Foden etc. off the bench.

We really have an embarrassment of riches going forward but that defence still worries me (obviously not in this game!!).
 

stupot07

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Whilst I agree North Macedonia aren't world beaters, they aren't a bad side. Knocked Italy out of the world cup, beat Germany too. This will be a record defeat for them.
Regardless, they have been absolutely woeful today, Malta looked a much better side.

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David O'Day

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It's worked well, don't really see the issue. He's been playing a similar role for Liverpool too.
No he hasn't, he's been playing as an inverted fullback for liverpool. He's still defensively a right back for them

People need to understand modern formations where players play in different positions depending on if the team has the ball or not

TAA for liverpool is a rb who stands next to the CDM when liverpool have the ball. He's not part of their midfield 3
 

Evo1883

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Rare I praise England. Would have beat practically anybody tonight , France spluttering to a 1-0 at home v Greece.. England just on it
 

David O'Day

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anyway, if you think TAA can play in a midfield 3 against a good team then ok you are in for a shock

That's my last comment on this, I'll let you be wrong in peace
 

Evo1883

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anyway, if you think TAA can play in a midfield 3 against a good team then ok you are in for a shock

That's my last comment on this, I'll let you be wrong in peace
I don't mind being wrong about it , enjoyed watching him last couple games .. if he never plays in midfield again for England it won't mean anything to me .. but he's played well fair play to the lad
 

mark82

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anyway, if you think TAA can play in a midfield 3 against a good team then ok you are in for a shock

That's my last comment on this, I'll let you be wrong in peace
Not sure we can judge either way. He's got the talent to be able to do it, but needs to learn the position.
 

Alkhen

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TAA is a good tool to have, he could be the one to unlock those stubborn defences England have struggled against in previous tournaments.

We can play more defensive against the bigger teams.

Will say the CBs look very thin on the ground. Desperately need a breakthrough there. Hopefully Colwill can push on
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Enjoyable watch England are tonight , usually boring even against shite .

Have a swagger about them
Indeed they did, but for me the doubt still remains about our set up against the better teams.

I still fear Southgate will alter the way we play to be more defensive to nullify the big teams rather than continuing to do what does so well and play on the front foot with confidence.
 

CJ_covblaze

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North Macedonia’s biggest defeat. And still time for more.
They’re not a bad team. Mid tier side now. Similar level to Greece, Ukraine, Sweden etc. Impressive we can rip them apart like that. Saka was sensational and has been superb for a couple of years. 12/12. Things are looking good. Been a top few days. Can’t wait for September. GSTK
 

SBAndy

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TAA is a good tool to have, he could be the one to unlock those stubborn defences England have struggled against in previous tournaments.

We can play more defensive against the bigger teams.

That’s about how I see it. If we were soaking up pressure then he’s got the technical quality to play early passes in behind the opposition back line. Would I start him there in a World Cup semi final? Would I fuck.
 

napolimp

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Who would have thought Scotland would be romping through a group containing Spain and Haaland. Why are Poland so crap, and what the hell is going on with Luxenbourg?
 

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