Israel - Palestinian Conflict (16 Viewers)

[SIR ERNIE]

biden is just well an old bloke who says weird stuff these days

Tragically for the western world he's much more than that.

 

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[David O'Day]

If I had paid for a JDAM and this was all it did I would want my money back. Better spending it on Bangers.

already been disproven fella

 

[David O'Day]

So why did israel lie last night and put up a video from 2022?
And funny you mentioned a JDAM because I don't think it's been mentioned on here.

Cuntmo is living in a post truth world and he won't reply to you as he's fanny so seems to live in the us

 

[clint van damme]

Cuntmo is living in a post truth world and he won't reply to you as he's fanny so seems to live in the us

Fairly sure it's gazbola who turned out to be a massive racist.

 

[duffer]

If I had paid for a JDAM and this was all it did I would want my money back. Better spending it on Bangers.

Given it seems accepted that the hospital was warned a strike was coming by Israel, that it had been hit twice already by Israeli missiles, and that neither of those strikes seemed to have caused huge craters, I think it's a pretty big leap to assert that it definitely wasn't Israel.

Regardless, what they're doing right now is killing innocent men, women, and children - their only crime, being Palestinian and living in Gaza.

The missile thing is a bit of a sideshow, imho. Israel are openly stating that they've cut off power, water and medical supplies, and they're still chucking bombs and missiles into one of the most densely populated places on the planet. 500 deaths will be tiny compared to the final Palestinian casualties if this doesn't stop.

 

[Sick Boy]

Fairly sure it's gazbola who turned out to be a massive racist.

I don't think it is to be honest.

 

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[David O'Day]

not talk tv!

 

[clint van damme]

I don't think it is to be honest.

Fuck sake, there's 2 of them!

 

[David O'Day]

Seems that Kieran was talking shit?

I for one am truly shocked that he would say something that seems to be so untrue

 

[chiefdave]

not talk tv!

I just need GB News for a full house

 

[clint van damme]

here's they fella you're using to prove yourcase admitting they've fucked these things up before

 

[clint van damme]

Seems that Kieran was talking shit?

I for one am truly shocked that he would say something that seems to be so untrue

If it were true they'd have a lot of questions to answer as to why they picked that up but didn't get wind of them plotting last weeks terrorist attack for the previous 2 years.

 

[David O'Day]

Maybe Kieran or the Racist Yank would like to comment on this?

 

[GIMOC]

so funny this thread. you all making yourselves look silly. the fact you all take hamas word and propas gospel lol

ask yourselves this
why can’t they prove Isreal bombed the hospital.

seeing the photos of the scene, to me, not consistent with an airstrike and are not consistent with claims that 500+ people were killed. have a look at the photos, lack of structural damage to most cars Again these only show 3 cars with structural damage, and cars more than around 10-15m away appearing mostly undamaged.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

so funny this thread. you all making yourselves look silly. the fact you all take hamas word and propas gospel lol

ask yourselves this
why can’t they prove Isreal bombed the hospital.

seeing the photos of the scene, to me, not consistent with an airstrike and are not consistent with claims that 500+ people were killed. have a look at the photos, lack of structural damage to most cars Again these only show 3 cars with structural damage, and cars more than around 10-15m away appearing mostly undamaged.

 

[shmmeee]

Wait. So if a few cars in car park are all that’s claimed. What was the massive fucking explosion on camera and all the dead and injured people on TV?

The “intercepted Hamas call” is blatantly fake, you can tell from the dialogue even as a non Arabic speaker. And Israel have form here, plus admitted it was them at first. Not to mention the fake video they put up at first.

All seems too fishy to be claiming you have definite proof right now. Certainly not when your primary source is a Twitter user in the UK

 

[David O'Day]

so funny this thread. you all making yourselves look silly. the fact you all take hamas word and propas gospel lol

ask yourselves this
why can’t they prove Isreal bombed the hospital.

seeing the photos of the scene, to me, not consistent with an airstrike and are not consistent with claims that 500+ people were killed. have a look at the photos, lack of structural damage to most cars Again these only show 3 cars with structural damage, and cars more than around 10-15m away appearing mostly undamaged.

And that'll be a another line on the batshit bingo card

I look forward to hearing how Hamas made Doug King put up the corporate box prices and Joe Biden didn't turn up for press duties.

 

[skybluetony176]

So much conflicting info flying around I don’t know what to believe at the moment. But here’s some thoughts and questions. Yes the creator is small but the damage is wide, saw one suggestion that it could have been an incendiary device which explodes over a site with the carcass making a small impact crater. Certainly ties in with footage from Ukraine. The speed at which Israel denied it and the ever changing versions, yes it was an evolving but it’s very suspicious especially when they’re putting footage out to defend themselves only for it to be immediately debunked as being historic footage. Not convinced just because Biden says he buys it, what else was he going to say. The biggest question is if Hamas or any other group did do it why haven’t we seen equivalent damage on Israeli soil from Hamas etc.

 

[clint van damme]

so funny this thread. you all making yourselves look silly. the fact you all take hamas word and propas gospel lol

ask yourselves this
why can’t they prove Isreal bombed the hospital.

seeing the photos of the scene, to me, not consistent with an airstrike and are not consistent with claims that 500+ people were killed. have a look at the photos, lack of structural damage to most cars Again these only show 3 cars with structural damage, and cars more than around 10-15m away appearing mostly undamaged.

Why did Israel change their story 4 times yesterday evening?

 

[clint van damme]

So much conflicting info flying around I don’t know what to believe at the moment. But here’s some thoughts and questions. Yes the creator is small but the damage is wide, saw one suggestion that it could have been an incendiary device which explodes over a site with the carcass making a small impact crater. Certainly ties in with footage from Ukraine. The speed at which Israel denied it and the ever changing versions, yes it was an evolving but it’s very suspicious especially when they’re putting footage out to defend themselves only for it to be immediately debunked as being historic footage. Not convinced just because Biden says he buys it, what else was he going to say. The biggest question is if Hamas or any other group did do it why haven’t we seen equivalent damage on Israeli soil from Hamas etc.

Youre right, it's hard to know the truth, but it's not so difficult to spot when something clearly doesn't add up.

 

[Grendel]

So much conflicting info flying around I don’t know what to believe at the moment. But here’s some thoughts and questions. Yes the creator is small but the damage is wide, saw one suggestion that it could have been an incendiary device which explodes over a site with the carcass making a small impact crater. Certainly ties in with footage from Ukraine. The speed at which Israel denied it and the ever changing versions, yes it was an evolving but it’s very suspicious especially when they’re putting footage out to defend themselves only for it to be immediately debunked as being historic footage. Not convinced just because Biden says he buys it, what else was he going to say. The biggest question is if Hamas or any other group did do it why haven’t we seen equivalent damage on Israeli soil from Hamas etc.

If you are calling Allah small Tony I’d be careful a Fatwa isn’t on its way

 

[fatso]

The first casualty of war, is truth!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The first casualty of war, is truth!

There must be a lot of people at war who post on this board then!

 

[clint van damme]

The first casualty of war, is truth!

With the advent of AI its going to get a lot worse

 

[Ian1779]

so funny this thread. you all making yourselves look silly. the fact you all take hamas word and propas gospel lol

ask yourselves this
why can’t they prove Isreal bombed the hospital.

seeing the photos of the scene, to me, not consistent with an airstrike and are not consistent with claims that 500+ people were killed. have a look at the photos, lack of structural damage to most cars Again these only show 3 cars with structural damage, and cars more than around 10-15m away appearing mostly undamaged.

This is your batshit response? Because the cars were relatively unscathed then they people should have been fine?

It’s like listening to Mike Graham talk about growing concrete.

 

[TomRad85]

I made a very inoffensive post last night about perhaps waiting for a bit before jumping to conclusions, I was of course predictably jumped on, but here we are one day later and it's still quite clearly unclear.

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[Como]

Gaza hospital: What video, pictures and other evidence tell us about Al-Ahli hospital blast

BBC Verify is analysing evidence from the Al-Ahli hospital explosion amid competing claims over responsibility.

www.bbc.com

I doubt they intended to hit the car park, pretty sure they do not have that sort of capability

Mind you the timing was good and they had the help of the true believers that ramped it up.

Anyone who looked at it with a semblance of impartiality would have seen it did not make a lot of sense, 500 killed?, all counted in a very short time, then it was a 1,000, who knows what it is now. The rocket went bang, maybe the warhead and fuel or just fuel would have been enough, vehicles in the area followed, some relatively minor damage to surrounding buildings.

How many casualties I doubt we will ever know, must have been some.
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A happy coincidence for Hamas etc, any peace talks derailed and most unlikely that the truth matters at all.

 

[clint van damme]

I made a very inoffensive post last night about perhaps waiting for a bit before jumping to conclusions, I was of course predictably jumped on, but here we are one day later and it's still quite clearly unclear.

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Israel owned up to it last night then reneged on what they said, why do you think they'd do that?

 

[GIMOC]

This is your batshit response? Because the cars were relatively unscathed then they people should have been fine?

It’s like listening to Mike Graham talk about growing concrete.

how thick must you be? seriously.
10 mins after the explosion, the news had headlines that 500 dead and caused by Israel. how could they even know 500 had died so soon after the explosion? then when the day light appears and photos emerge. its hard to believe 500 would have died.

do we know the truth, of course not but reading through this thread everyone jumped to the conclusion that Isreal was to blame. talk about trying to push own agendas.

many on here questioning Israel are very sparse in condemning the scum who murdered 2 football fans in Belgium. very quiet indeed.

 

[GIMOC]

Israel owned up to it last night then reneged on what they said, why do you think they'd do that?

Israel didnt. one advisor did. no proof from hamas or Palestine that Israel were involved in the attack. what does that tell you?

 

[clint van damme]

how thick must you be? seriously.
10 mins after the explosion, the news had headlines that 500 dead and caused by Israel. how could they even know 500 had died so soon after the explosion? then when the day light appears and photos emerge. its hard to believe 500 would have died.

do we know the truth, of course not but reading through this thread everyone jumped to the conclusion that Isreal was to blame. talk about trying to push own agendas.

many on here questioning Israel are very sparse in condemning the scum who murdered 2 football fans in Belgium. very quiet indeed.

I'll ask again, why did Israel change their story 4 times?

And for your information I did condemn the killing of the 2 football supporters on the thread about it.

How much compassion for innocent Palestinian civilians getting killed have you shown?

 

[clint van damme]

Israel didnt. one advisor did. no proof from hamas or Palestine that Israel were involved in the attack. what does that tell you?

One advisor, remind me who he is.
Why did they post video proof it was hamas which turned out to be from 2022?
Why didthey take it down?
Why did the switch from blaming hamas to some other islamist mob?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Israel didnt. one advisor did. no proof from hamas or Palestine that Israel were involved in the attack. what does that tell you?

Consider this. After the propagandist took down his tweet admitting the attack, the next communications were ‘we’re investigating what happened’ as opposed to ‘it wasn’t us’. Then the ‘investigation’ yields videos and audio that are either out of date or fabricated.

If you’re clear of all charges, why do that?

 

[TomRad85]

Israel owned up to it last night then reneged on what they said, why do you think they'd do that?

No idea mate, why anything that's going on? I hope Biden checked that out before speaking though, or did a Tony-esque Wikipedia search on Hamas' missile collection, could look rather stupid otherwise (possible.)

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