Brighton Sky Blue
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I think it seems to be you and the ten a penny journalist who don’t understand. The same people who sing ‘Up the RA’ will also claim they don’t literally support the IRA, just it’s catchy.
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David O'Day
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I see that after weeks of silence on this one the algorithms have finally done their job on you
Brighton Sky Blue
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I’ve never said that either chant isn’t offensive or inflammatory - I certainly wouldn’t chant either for that very reason. It’s quite a leap from there though to insist that anyone who does is a literal IRA fanatic or wants to wipe Jews off the earth.
Brighton Sky Blue
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nicksar
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If the organisers of these protests had one ounce of respect they should have been encouraging no demonstration on that day but that doesn't fit their agenda.Big Palestine thing planned for remembrance Day? Classy.
Still, nobody says that from the river to the sea thing do they
Allow the people of the UK to show and pay respect to those who have lost loved ones in wars on remembrance Sunday.
tisza
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The tunnels run under much of Gaza. Apparently key locations are built under hospitals etc. Hamas have had key resources located in civilian tower blocks.
Rocket attacks are launched from urban areas - that was highlighted with the large hospital explosion 2 weeks ago.
It's a human shield approach which Israel are not "buying" now with dreadful consequences.
chiefdave
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Just to point out in case people are thinking that this day has been deliberately selected that there have been protests arranged every Sunday for weeks and there are protests planned for every Sunday moving forward.
An anti-war demonstration on Remembrance Day seems entirely appropriate to me. An anti-Israel demonstration obviously wouldn’t be - if that’s what you think this is, I would have to disagree, and I doubt anyone could persuade you otherwise.
The UK, or any other country or religion, doesn’t have a monopoly on Remembrance Day. Frothing about flags on poppies seems disingenuous to say the least.
Nick
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Which is all well and good but the 11th is a Saturday....
It’s a typo on his part - the protests have been every Saturday for weeks now
Nick
Administrator
London is in the UK, it kind of does have the monopoly on it here.
"frothing", far from it. Just pointing out the madness that some seem to be all for it but as soon as Tommy Robinson pops up it's the worst thing ever and he's full of hate. (See the thread about him to see my views on him, before you comment
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nicksar
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That would depend to a large extent on how many relatives you personally lost in WW1 & WW2..... me?,lost my maternal grandfather in WW1 and my paternal great uncle both killed on the Somme and buried in war graves over there.
Also a day where I pay respect to my late Father who fought in WW2 from 1940 onwards.
Nick
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No mate, you should sing songs about jews and be done with it.
Fuck the war memorials off too while we are at it.
chiefdave
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Saturday, Sunday, if I don’t have to go to work it’s all the same
There was a protest on the 28th, there was one on the 21st, there’s one on the 4th and one on the 11th
Not sure I see a problem here, the National Service of Remembrance is on the Sunday so not even an issue of the two events happening at the same time
Wonder how many people who will claim to be outraged on social media will actually bother to get off their arse and go to a remembrance service? The one in Coventry certainly has plenty of space and is definitely worth attending.
skybluetony176
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What? A Murdock owned rag spreading misinformation. I’m shocked.
Grendel
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Banter
Chanting 'Can we stab you every week?' and mocking the Jews killed in Nazi gas chambers... West Ham fans' shocking behaviour at Tottenham disgraced football
JONATHAN McEVOY: The bile-spewing West Ham fans who baited their Tottenham Hotspur rivals because some of their number had been stabbed by a Nazi mob could take a couple of lessons in history.
Nick
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Banter
Chanting 'Can we stab you every week?' and mocking the Jews killed in Nazi gas chambers... West Ham fans' shocking behaviour at Tottenham disgraced football
JONATHAN McEVOY: The bile-spewing West Ham fans who baited their Tottenham Hotspur rivals because some of their number had been stabbed by a Nazi mob could take a couple of lessons in history.www.dailymail.co.uk
Ah it's fine!
Otis
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There's always been a lot of scummy West Ham fans.Banter
Chanting 'Can we stab you every week?' and mocking the Jews killed in Nazi gas chambers... West Ham fans' shocking behaviour at Tottenham disgraced football
JONATHAN McEVOY: The bile-spewing West Ham fans who baited their Tottenham Hotspur rivals because some of their number had been stabbed by a Nazi mob could take a couple of lessons in history.
Nothing surprises me anymore and it seems anything goes to rile people up.
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Remembrance day is supposed to be about remembering all people who have died due to war. People are dying now in Gaza and the West Bank, and recently did in Israel.
So if they had anything about them, they would can the one on Remembrance Day, or take it somewhere else
duffer
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Both chants could be seen as pretty insensitive, but I'm not having that supporting Palestinian rights to live freely in what was their land is the same as denying Israeli rights to do the same.
Anti-Semitism has become weaponised by the state of Israel in an attempt to suppress any criticism of their actions towards Palestinians, and it's been going on for a while now.
Calling out for a ceasefire in Gaza is not supporting the atrocities committed by Hamas and nor is it Anti-Semitic.
As for Rememberance Day, unless people are planning protests directly against it, I can't see an issue. I lost family in the great war too, as did many here I'll bet. I've got closer family and friends who served more recently.
It bothers me not a jot if people elsewhere are marching for peace. The point of one of those wars was to maintain our freedom, not least of expression.
What I'm less keen on is either the far right claiming the flag for themselves, or fetishising the military. That is a dangerous path to follow.
Anti-Semitism has become weaponised by the state of Israel in an attempt to suppress any criticism of their actions towards Palestinians, and it's been going on for a while now.
Calling out for a ceasefire in Gaza is not supporting the atrocities committed by Hamas and nor is it Anti-Semitic.
As for Rememberance Day, unless people are planning protests directly against it, I can't see an issue. I lost family in the great war too, as did many here I'll bet. I've got closer family and friends who served more recently.
It bothers me not a jot if people elsewhere are marching for peace. The point of one of those wars was to maintain our freedom, not least of expression.
What I'm less keen on is either the far right claiming the flag for themselves, or fetishising the military. That is a dangerous path to follow.
Nick
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In which case there's no issue with people dressing up as nazis as they died during the war too? Maybe a few swastika flags waved about?
Why's it on 11/11 at 11? People are dying in Gaza and the West Bank / Israel but Remembrance Day is:
Really not sure why people want this to piggyback on Remembrance Day. It's strange.
Nick
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Like I said, Tommy Robinson opens his mouth and people will lose their heads.
Grendel
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The far left also of course “claim the flag for themselves” as well
TomRad85
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I wouldn’t recommend it
Sick Boy
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I take it you've never been to Ireland.