USSR invades Ukraine. (16 Viewers)
- Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
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skyblueelephant76
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The polls in the US are still fairly close, I wouldn't say it's inevitable.
Grendel
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It isn’t but ukraines desire to regain Crimea is for the birds and in the end it becomes what is a victory
skyblueelephant76
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The Ukrainians believe that if they give up any territory now it will just give Putin the green light to take more in the future.
It's only going to happen as last resort.
SIR ERNIE
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Madness. Biden regime/NATO consider agreeing to Ukraine using long range missiles into Russian territory.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
‘The time has come,’ NATO chief latest to call for end to restrictions on Ukrainian use of US weapons - Washington Examiner
NATO urges US to lift Ukraine weapons restrictions, China denies arming Russia, North Korea spy satellite launch fails, Austin undergoes minor medical procedure
www.washingtonexaminer.com
skyblueelephant76
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About time.Madness. Biden regime/NATO consider agreeing to Ukraine using long range missiles into Russian territory.
‘The time has come,’ NATO chief latest to call for end to restrictions on Ukrainian use of US weapons - Washington Examiner
NATO urges US to lift Ukraine weapons restrictions, China denies arming Russia, North Korea spy satellite launch fails, Austin undergoes minor medical procedure
Madness. Biden regime/NATO consider agreeing to Ukraine using long range missiles into Russian territory.
‘The time has come,’ NATO chief latest to call for end to restrictions on Ukrainian use of US weapons - Washington Examiner
NATO urges US to lift Ukraine weapons restrictions, China denies arming Russia, North Korea spy satellite launch fails, Austin undergoes minor medical procedure
Nato have already said yes, it's the US that have so far refused.
Should have been done a long time ago.
fatso
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Yea. About time we escalated the totaly shit situation a bit further towards WW3, I mean who wants to live anyway?
Wtf do you think Russia will do? Just sit back and take it, or could they seek to destroy rocket supplies with one of the tactical Nucs they've deployed to the front?
Any one who thinks launching long range rockets into Russia is a cool idea needs to give their head a wobble.
And what next, a NATO air strike on Moscow perhaps?
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How exactly are you wanting/expecting these figures to be 'independently verified'? Just send some independent verifiers into the middle of a war zone yeah?
You were crying about Ukrainian numbers and now apparently UK numbers are made up too.
Grendel
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in hardly crying just saying there are no official numbers from either side.
FactCheck: how many people have died in the Russia-Ukraine war and what could happen next?
FactCheck takes a look at how many casualties of war there have been on both sides of the conflict - and what experts think could happen next.
www.channel4.com
This makes no sense.
So they're only going to destroy enemy rocket supplies if they're used inside Russia, otherwise they'll just let them sit there?
in hardly crying just saying there are no official numbers from either side.
FactCheck: how many people have died in the Russia-Ukraine war and what could happen next?
FactCheck takes a look at how many casualties of war there have been on both sides of the conflict - and what experts think could happen next.
Of course there aren't any 'official' numbers.
But I'd say that UK and US intelligence is likely to have more information than Channel 4 Fact Check, wouldn't you?
shmmeee
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I see Sick Boy made the news 
cepa.org
The Kremlin’s Cultural Tentacles Still Poison Italian Debate
In Italy, Russia has activated its influence network to promote events whitewashing its war crimes and pushing anti-Ukrainian propaganda.
Ummm the rockets have always been there, and have been used, they just haven't had permission to launch them into Russia.
Sick Boy
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You got me! It was the bed cover that did it for me though - Berlusconi gives Putin a duvet cover for his 65th birthdayI see Sick Boy made the news
The Kremlin’s Cultural Tentacles Still Poison Italian Debate
In Italy, Russia has activated its influence network to promote events whitewashing its war crimes and pushing anti-Ukrainian propaganda.
US intelligence has the same level of information as C4 Fact Check?
Hahaha. Incredible.
You might have finally jumped the shark.
skybluetony176
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So how much do you think they’re out by?
Grendel
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How would I know Tony? I’m sure a friend on the battlefield has told you though and you are checking notes.
So the only true and valuable information source in the entire world is Helen Johnson of C4 Fact Check?
How can we ever believe anything ever again unless it comes from the pen of Ms Johnson
Face it, you were crying about numbers coming from Ukraine and now they've been backed up by similar numbers from other sources you've decided that actually we cant trust anyone. Because C4 said so.
Clearly US intelligence has a very close ear to the ground and will have unbelievable amounts of intelligence and data. It's absurd to suggest otherwise.
skybluetony176
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Okay. So numerous reliable sources are coming up with the same ballpoint numbers on Russian casualties and you instantly dismiss them because how would you know.
Let’s try this one then. Who are you expecting to Independently verify them exactly if not the numerous, reliable and independent sources that have already verified them?
skyblueelephant76
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Ukraine has every right to go after military targets inside Russia, the ones that are constantly targeting civilians and killing innocent Ukrainians.
Skybluekyle
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The fact you call the US a brutal military regime is actually disturbing. Their leader doesn't even know what day it is
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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I hate the term " tactical" nuclear weapon ; as if it's a small precise thing that will just destroy a precise target and not cause mass loss of life.
The bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki would be considered " tactical" in terms of destructive power by today's standards. Yet somehow calling them "tactical" by the military fills us all with a sense of restraint.
Evo1883
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In fairness the USA are responsible for more war crimes and for backing genocidal regimes in the last 80 years than probably any major military on earth , they are by the very definition a brutal regime , masquerading as the world's police
Sick Boy
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And invading countries, of course.
Skybluekyle
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Name a genocide the US has been in favour of
Evo1883
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The one they are currently backing in gaza
Skybluekyle
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You think the US is actually giving its full backing, really? Even in Ukraine it's fucking things
Evo1883
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The USA are backing these wars , and are also Israels greatest ally , they could stop that war tonight if they decided too