cloughie
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Don't worry sisu also smoke but also use mirrors
All Ricoh/ alternative ground comments. (2 Viewers)
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Don't worry sisu also smoke but also use mirrors
Gaz
Well-Known Member
The problem I see with that though is it doesn't matter if the Ricoh is worth more than that in rent, you can only pay what the club can afford and sustain.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
average crowd 10000 ? If you cleared £200k after costs for the season profits i would be surprised
coundonskyblue
New Member
Is there a pitch?
SkyBlueUkeman
New Member
SISU want the stadium and surrounding land, not the Butts Park arena. This is the last stand. Either they pay up and buy the stadium, or they don't, and they would have wasted millions upon millions over the last few years and cut their losses.
It's tense to say the least.
It's tense to say the least.
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
temp stands don't take that long to put up. FL would more than likely be as helpful as possible as the last thing they want is a team dropping out of the league mid season. Could rearrange fixtures so we have a few weeks with no home games, could play a couple elsewhere (Leicester for example). its not a great option but I don't think it can be ruled out, would at least be something for SISU to look into as a possibility.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
but at the moment it isnt about what the club can afford it is about what it chooses to afford............. there are significant other costs that have either increased or been built in. My problem with it is if they are taking viability seriously then you tackle all costs and drive them all down that simply isnt happening
Sub
Well-Known Member
I have just read this from a councillor and thought what a great idea!! i think i will try it out!!!
! i do not want to pay all my council tax so i way pay 20 quid a year!! i dont want to pay 1.30 a litre of petrol i will give them 30pence a litre instead !! with complete and utter morons like this in goverment is it any wonder than theiving corrupt scum bags can with hold money from a company that has a legally binding contract !!:jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:
Cllr Foster on Ricoh Rentgate
Coventry Conservative Councillor Kevin Foster has tweeted that he feels that Coventry City's owners SISU should have paid what they thought was the right price.
SISU, according to the Coventry Telegraph tonight, have not paid their rent for the last ten months but rather than not paying, Cllr Foster feels that they should have paid what they thought was fair.
He tweeted: "If SISU think it is too high they should have paid the rent they think is right. Paying nothing reveals other motives."
! i do not want to pay all my council tax so i way pay 20 quid a year!! i dont want to pay 1.30 a litre of petrol i will give them 30pence a litre instead !! with complete and utter morons like this in goverment is it any wonder than theiving corrupt scum bags can with hold money from a company that has a legally binding contract !!:jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:
Cllr Foster on Ricoh Rentgate
Coventry Conservative Councillor Kevin Foster has tweeted that he feels that Coventry City's owners SISU should have paid what they thought was the right price.
SISU, according to the Coventry Telegraph tonight, have not paid their rent for the last ten months but rather than not paying, Cllr Foster feels that they should have paid what they thought was fair.
He tweeted: "If SISU think it is too high they should have paid the rent they think is right. Paying nothing reveals other motives."
lordsummerisle
Well-Known Member
How far is the Emirates? We managed to take pretty much our home crowd this season down there already.
pusbccfc
Well-Known Member
How about this...
If sisu were to pay the rent for the remainder of the season and all is well on that point. What about moving to the BPA and building a few stands and have a ground we own.
I know people will moan, but there's plenty of teams that share with rugby teams.
Also the Rugby team may see benefits, increased attendances at their games.
If sisu were to pay the rent for the remainder of the season and all is well on that point. What about moving to the BPA and building a few stands and have a ground we own.
I know people will moan, but there's plenty of teams that share with rugby teams.
Also the Rugby team may see benefits, increased attendances at their games.
Sky Blues
Active Member
An alternative ground?
I wonder if Sisu have read Football League regulations with regards to home grounds?
The FL website won't allow me to copy and paste the rules, but they can be found here:
http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20120702/section-4-clubs_2293633_2125725
Some of the clauses make interesting reading:
Clause 13.4:
The Board will not generally approve any ground sharing arrangement where the Club plays its matches outside the conurbation, as defined by the Board, from which the Club takes its name or with which it is otherwise traditionally associated.
i.e. Good luck trying to get permission to play outside Coventry.
13.7.3 would not adversly affect... the supporters...
i.e. the fans get a say.
13.7.5 would not adversly affect other clubs in the vicinity of the proposed location
i.e. depending on the proposed location other (league?) clubs could have a say
and
13.9 ...a Club shall either own its own ground or have a legally enforceable agreement with its ground's owner for for its use by the Club, expiring not earlier than the end of the current season.
Does Coventry City Football Club have a legally enforceable agreement with ACL if the terms of the agreement are breached by non-payment of rent? Is the club already at odds with league regulations?
I wonder if Sisu have read Football League regulations with regards to home grounds?
The FL website won't allow me to copy and paste the rules, but they can be found here:
http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20120702/section-4-clubs_2293633_2125725
Some of the clauses make interesting reading:
Clause 13.4:
The Board will not generally approve any ground sharing arrangement where the Club plays its matches outside the conurbation, as defined by the Board, from which the Club takes its name or with which it is otherwise traditionally associated.
i.e. Good luck trying to get permission to play outside Coventry.
13.7.3 would not adversly affect... the supporters...
i.e. the fans get a say.
13.7.5 would not adversly affect other clubs in the vicinity of the proposed location
i.e. depending on the proposed location other (league?) clubs could have a say
and
13.9 ...a Club shall either own its own ground or have a legally enforceable agreement with its ground's owner for for its use by the Club, expiring not earlier than the end of the current season.
Does Coventry City Football Club have a legally enforceable agreement with ACL if the terms of the agreement are breached by non-payment of rent? Is the club already at odds with league regulations?
coundonskyblue
New Member
If any owner wants to run the club like a normal business then I am all for that.
However, a normal business will lose customers when its product is not up to standard. It is upto the business to bring those customers back.
Was it the general public's fault that Rover went bust? Or was it the fault of the board who didnt run the company properly?
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
Knock down all those houses and rebuild HR.
Gaz
Well-Known Member
I think it is about what the club can afford, that's why they have withheld the rent, to try and force a way of getting the rent reduced to a level that the club can realistically operate at.
Sisu have done nothing but tackle all costs and drive them down, from what i'v seen.
coundonskyblue
New Member
We won't be leaving the Ricoh anyway. They will pay up on the 21st day, then sprout a load of crap about how it proves Sisu are still backing the club.
Is Ryton within the city of Coventry.....just asking the question.
kg82
Well-Known Member
Brick for brick please!
deanocity3
New Member
A few good points there,4 for a try and 3 for a convertion. I would like the Butts too.This has held some very historic sporting events in the past.10,000 watched Randolph Turpin from Leamington fight before he was world champion.1950's Dutch athlete Fanny Blankers Kouen raced there in world record time.
SkyBlueCharlie
Well-Known Member
What???...no way am I travelling to the Middle East even for the City.
Bugsy
Well-Known Member
I'm wiv this idea however crazy it is, easy to get to plenty of pubs, and more importantly be our own home.
coundonskyblue
New Member
The floor though is the BPA is home to Cov Rugby, the Coventry Bears, and I may be wrong but also the Coventry Jets. What sort of state would the pitch be in with 4 sports teams on it a week?
lordsummerisle
Well-Known Member
During the winter it's okay, and probably still easier to get a pint than at The Ricoh!
You'll Never Beat McPake
Well-Known Member
Would offering to play our remaining home fixtures away from home be an option? Would have to get other clubs permission I guess
The CableGuy
Well-Known Member
"Unfortunately, cloughie's mortgage lenders are at fault and we believe they will go into Admin."
Johnnythespider
Well-Known Member
thanks for this, although 13.7.3 didn't do the fans of wimbledon much good
coundonskyblue
New Member
It would be classed as the Coventry conurbation, so they could get away with it on that basis.
Think the more important issue would be the fact Ryton is simply a field.
coundonskyblue
New Member
At which point the club would go bust after about a month with no ticket income.
JHarding1987
New Member
50% reduction is still over £600,000, which is 4 times more(ish) than Ipswich pay & still over twice as much as highest Championship pays. So I can see exactly why SISU said feck off. Now I am no SISU fan, but this is all leading me to conclude that the fat cats at ACL &The Council have fleeced CCFC & are very much responsible for the club being where it is now. Can see why SISU have had to do some of the things they have. 24 days a season where income generated (& expenditure), no share of pie/beer sales & have to cover £1.2m in rent, staff salaries. I know powers at Council are Brummies with no affiliation to the City let alone the club, so to me, the more I hear the more I side with SISU.
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coundonskyblue
New Member
In what way is council leader John Mutton a Brummie?
I cant stand the man and would usually jump on any opportunity to have a go at him, but he is a Willenhall lad, he is not from Brum.
A few scaffoldings and it's a stadium ...
Sky Blues
Active Member
I know what you're saying, but I thought the general feeling in football towards that was "never again". Maybe you're right and if push comes to shove the fans might get a say - but that there will be no guarantees it'll be heard.
I've got several pieces of sky blue plastic and some bricks (don't ask) from the Thackall Street entrance which you are welcome to.