fatso
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Surely the hatred is aimed at any fucker committing any knife crime.
Who's doing the fucking knife crime??????
Southport Stabbing (12 Viewers)
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Who's doing the fucking knife crime??????
fatso
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Grendel
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Seems a bit shy of answering a few questions to be fair
Ring Of Steel
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not really- remember the reason this all started was that GIMOC and the others were telling everyone that the murderer in Southport was an immigrant fresh off a boat.
Since then it’s been open season for any racist trope & xenophobic slur you like. You have Grendel sending grovelling PMs apologising for his choice of words then promptly showing his true colours, Nick seems to have selective vision on what he sees, and the knife crime gets lost in a sea of agendas.
its easy for me to say what I believe, i think people that do this need the absolute nastiest & toughest sentences there are, and if they are immigrants then they’re gone. At the same time I believe that people using it all as an opportunity to preach hatred of immigrants in general or indeed non white or Muslim people, they’re absolute cunts.
too many on here can’t do the same- deflect, avoid, and you can smell the stench of xenophobia from their every post.
fatso
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One or two already suggesting the thread is closed or moved.
Strange isn't it?
Let's just pretend the innocent little girls didn't get stabbed to death.
Grendel
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Well that’s a blatant lie for a start
Ring Of Steel
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look back a few pages, this was pointed out to you before you were then called a… “slug” I think it was.
Nick
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Its you trying to hide knife crime in an agenda in this case though, isn't it?
Your post isn't actually true though, is it?
I guess it's easier to blame everybody else.
Grendel
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Nope no apologies were made and that was years ago and he sent a DM about something else the other week.
So the “grovelling apology” you made up - brilliant
Ring Of Steel
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stabbed by who???
knife psychos need putting away for life, I don’t see anyone disagreeing, do you?
It’s weirdos like GIMOC being called out, by me, for posting lies in order to blame “immigrants”, “Muslims” or whoever they are afraid of on that particular day, within minutes.
fatso
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I want any fucker carrying a knife in public locked up within 24 hours, and I mean any fucker.
I'd want more cops on the streets doing random searches, (they're welcome to search me any time they want)
The problem that seems to be the issue on hear today is that most of the knife crime appears to be done by the same minority of the population, and while that's the case, they are going to be targets of the inevitable hatred that follows.
Why can't this minority police themselves?
Why has it become the norm for their young men to carry knives?
Why are they targeting children and innocent people?
It's so fucked up, what the fuck is going on?
And why are the government refusing to do anything?
Ring Of Steel
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hide knife crime no. Not sure how many more times it has to be stated- these people need to never see the light of day again.
shall I repeat that for you?
As for blaming other people & deflecting- who was it saying that the murderer was an immigrant off a boat, saying the bloke had a baby, was that me or was that someone else?
Nick
Administrator
Again though, you're also posting lies?
You have done exactly the same by saying they are British as others have by saying they aren't (when nobody knows yet). Much the same as when it was decided the Southport lad was Christian rather than Muslim. (Again, not sure that's been said?)
Nick
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Who said the bloke had a baby?
You are the one making things up while ranting about others making things up.
Grendel
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Well you’ve said the Birmingham guy is British by his accent and again you ignore the false claims made by people the police is Manchester attacked innocent people in a racially motivated assault.
Lies wasn’t it?
Ring Of Steel
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Again though, you're also posting lies?
You have done exactly the same by saying they are British as others have by saying they aren't (when nobody knows yet). Much the same as when it was decided the Southport lad was Christian rather than Muslim. (Again, not sure that's been said?)
They do sound British to me. That’s not a conclusion, and the statement makes it implicit that it’s a personal opinion. And you have a problem with it. But yet you stand there & say nothing when someone makes definitive conclusions about the identity of the attackers by linking up known far right accounts, which are lies. You’re quiet about that.
strange, but not surprising unfortunately.
Ring Of Steel
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well first off I’ve said he sounds British. Again, I would urge you to take a look at your own well-worn playbook and note that it’s not a conclusion, it’s an opinion.
as for the rest, it’s too jumbled and I don’t get it.
Nick
Administrator
No I'm pointing out that you are ranting about it while doing the same thing. You are the one trying to bring me into it so I commented.
It will be my fault that people are getting stabbed next.
Are we saying that the Palestinian flags are wrong, it's barbarism over there and should be stopped, just unacceptable!
Ring Of Steel
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Well I haven’t come on here telling everyone that “he is British” and flooded the place with nasty links & lies, but if you see that as “the same” then there’s not much I can do and that’s just who you are, fair enough.
Nick
Administrator
You have come on here saying he's British and going on about him having a baby with him (which nobody has said).
You have purposely tried to bring me into it, hence I'm commenting.
"Just who I am"? You have no clue to be able to comment on that either.
Just discuss it in an open thread and leave the site deaths of 3kids where they were,a memory?
Grendel
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How convenient.
Let’s try again.
Manchester Airport - man had kick on head. Described as an attempt to kill a Muslim man by a white police officer. Riots in Leeds.
Muslim man actually was a scum bag who committed a violent assault against the police
Less jumbled?
Grendel
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Ring Of Steel
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I think that’s a good idea at this stage.
mmttww
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I see debate and discussion about race, nationality, religion and the reliability of sources of information. I don't see any debate or discussion re: root causes of knife crime and potential solutions, just who does it. People are point scoring. It's not a discussion.
If you can explain to me how the rush to blame segments of the population for what's happening nationally has got to do with Southport, I'm all ears. No one's talking about knife crime itself. It's pretty undignified and I'd hope we could do better.
Grendel
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Oh doesn’t seem sauerkraut was his choice
www.politico.eu
Syrian man arrested after deadly knife attack in Germany
Islamic State claimed responsibility for a attack late Friday that left three people dead and eight others injured.
www.politico.eu
ccfc922
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mmttww
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'Baiting People with Gotcha Questions'
would be more accurate.
Don't pretend you're open to having your position on any subject challenged or altered. It's nauseating.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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His only comments on the Germany attack were that 'I was creaming myself' about it. He doesn't have the balls to discuss some of the harder topics so takes the cowardly option of trying to be a hero and jumping on other people instead. It's easier to do that.
I don't see how anyone above the age of 12 cannot see that there's a massive problem in Europe at the moment. I'm not sure why some are so keen to cover for these people or put in a series of deflections every time something happens. It's extremely bizarre behaviour.
mmttww
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Doesn't this paragraph perfectly describe the situation with racism in the UK and people's response to it on here?
Oh doesn’t seem sauerkraut was his choice
Syrian man arrested after deadly knife attack in Germany
Islamic State claimed responsibility for a attack late Friday that left three people dead and eight others injured.
They'll be getting a knock won't they!!
rob9872
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We're now 60 odd pages in and most of it seems to be arguing about who is the most far right or who is the biggest apologist and blaming eachother for the issues. As always, an argument on here only divides us, changes nothing and gets many worked up.
What can't be denied is that we do need some radical steps taken on immigration and a grown up conversation on all sides at the highest level, with government and senior leaders from all parts, with no name calling, no riotous consequences about how we make things better for everyone.
To deny we have an issue and feeding the constant line of we need immigration is ostrich like behaviour. Good controlled immigration I'm sure everyone accepts.
What we currently have is people weaponising it and hiding behind terms that are racist or race itself or religion or colour or anything else that is divisive.
We've seen locally even in recent months like the lad who killed Keaton get away with basically murder fleeing to his home country, to escape justice. That lad is white, so no ral chart required to be outraged, but we need everyone to come together. It won't happen of course, we'll all go on blaming eachother, there will be more senseless attacks and this thread will reach 100 pages with more rinse and repeat arguments.
Sad, sad times we're living in. I'm glad that I'm not one of the younger generation, but feel for them as this will continue to get worse.
What can't be denied is that we do need some radical steps taken on immigration and a grown up conversation on all sides at the highest level, with government and senior leaders from all parts, with no name calling, no riotous consequences about how we make things better for everyone.
To deny we have an issue and feeding the constant line of we need immigration is ostrich like behaviour. Good controlled immigration I'm sure everyone accepts.
What we currently have is people weaponising it and hiding behind terms that are racist or race itself or religion or colour or anything else that is divisive.
We've seen locally even in recent months like the lad who killed Keaton get away with basically murder fleeing to his home country, to escape justice. That lad is white, so no ral chart required to be outraged, but we need everyone to come together. It won't happen of course, we'll all go on blaming eachother, there will be more senseless attacks and this thread will reach 100 pages with more rinse and repeat arguments.
Sad, sad times we're living in. I'm glad that I'm not one of the younger generation, but feel for them as this will continue to get worse.