Most ,if not all owners see the benefit in improving the squad and so pleasing the fans who pay to keep the ball rolling as they say .This also has the chance with the support that success brings , of moving you up the leagues to create more revenue . Sisu's idea of ownership is something different which nobody yet has been able to fathom
sisu are not good for our club - well someone's got to say it! (5 Viewers)
- Thread starter MichaelCCFC
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Astute
Well-Known Member
We all know what their plan has been. They don't give a toss about our club, us or anything else as long as they get the Ricoh very cheaply.
95% sure that is their intention now but dont you find it strange that they have never once tried to genuinely take the fans with them on the journey from day one
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
lol true colours shining through!!!!!!!!!!!!
Astute
Well-Known Member
In principle they are right in what they want to do. But they go about everything the wrong way. And they know it. And if we knew what their plans were so would all sides that they are constantly attacking.
And who would believe what they say now?
Dont understand ! Is that for my post?
Michael, I thought you had started to talk some sense - and then this ranty nonsense!.Who exactly is this aimed at and what is the desired result of the communication? it offers no solutions other than some vague talk of fan ownership and Sisu to piss off...there is no strategy or coherent protest here yet you appear to want to represent us. If you have nothing new to say , then say nothing. this is just embarassing and no better than the lame and shouty posts on here week in week out that achieve nothing.
bigfatronssba
Well-Known Member
Do you disagree that sisu are not good for our club?
Nick
Administrator
Why do you keep asking the same question over and over whenever anybody disagrees with anything said?
Grendel
Well-Known Member
I'd get that stylus repaired if I were you. Nothing more annoying than when a record gets stuck repeating the same old lyrics again and again.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
I know what you mean. I have a constant dull ringing in my ears of "it's all the fault of Andy Thorn and Ann Lucas"
Can't think why?
Good 5 years ago when we were a mid table championship club with PL ambitions? Probably were then and I bet you thought so too
Good now in L1 with a broken relationship with the owners of the ground? - of course not but I thought they would be gone long ago - at the very least they are still funding the club as a going concern. Think with "normal" owners we may have gone to the wall by now.
ajsccfc
Well-Known Member
If someone made a thread about how great Sisu are but titled it 'puppies should not be killed' you'd be lost.
THE FUTURE is without sisu, that is why nopm must stay .(no money ,no point them being here , and they have burned all there bridges and sunk the life boats) after that, the council have to put a value on the ricoh and sell it , its not the councils job to run football teams , they should be running services , its not up to sisu to give there value and negotiate like i say that boat has sailed, the only way forward is for the rioch to go on the open market , the council have to forget about using it as a cash cow and make there money up of bussiness rates, tax and services that a thriving arena should bring
stupot07
Well-Known Member
***except for away cup games in particular big ties away at too PL opposition...
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jimmyhillsfanclub
Well-Known Member
FUCKING HELL....This is so boring....
Allow me to summarise this & every other pointless repetitive dull-fest of a thread about sisu.....
Sisu/Otium are grade A cunts.
ACL, the FL & CCC are also major twats...but not in the same league as Sisu/Otium
Glad the season is over.
I'm past caring about the JR....its been built up on here to be some sort of defining watershed moment......prepare to be massively disappointed with that folks....
Bring on the cricket & the world cup.
Happy Monday!
Allow me to summarise this & every other pointless repetitive dull-fest of a thread about sisu.....
Sisu/Otium are grade A cunts.
ACL, the FL & CCC are also major twats...but not in the same league as Sisu/Otium
Glad the season is over.
I'm past caring about the JR....its been built up on here to be some sort of defining watershed moment......prepare to be massively disappointed with that folks....
Bring on the cricket & the world cup.
Happy Monday!
stupot07
Well-Known Member
FUCKING HELL....This is so boring....
Allow me to summarise this & every other pointless repetitive dull-fest of a thread about sisu.....
Sisu/Otium are grade A cunts.
ACL, the FL & CCC are also major twats...but not in the same league as Sisu/Otium
Glad the season is over.
I'm past caring about the JR....its been built up on here to be some sort of defining watershed moment......prepare to be massively disappointed with that folks....
Bring on the cricket & the world cup.
Happy Monday!
Twisting my melons man
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covmark
Well-Known Member
Cricket sucks almost as much as brie.FUCKING HELL....This is so boring....
Allow me to summarise this & every other pointless repetitive dull-fest of a thread about sisu.....
Sisu/Otium are grade A cunts.
ACL, the FL & CCC are also major twats...but not in the same league as Sisu/Otium
Glad the season is over.
I'm past caring about the JR....its been built up on here to be some sort of defining watershed moment......prepare to be massively disappointed with that folks....
Bring on the cricket & the world cup.
Happy Monday!
I agree with all your other points
jimmyhillsfanclub
Well-Known Member
Sweet dreams are made of cheese....who am I to diss a brie...
MichaelCCFC
New Member
This is proving really interesting.
Are any of the critics on here of the kcic mailout actually going to say 'sisu are good for us'? If not a single person is prepared to do so, does that mean there is 100% agreement that sisu are not good for ccfc?
The kcic view has been set out clearly. There have been the usual insults and going off on tangents on here, but I haven't seen anyone engage with the substance of the email. If you disagree with it, chucking insults/distractions isn't helpful but specific responses to the bullet points with which you disagree would be much appreciated.
Are any of the critics on here of the kcic mailout actually going to say 'sisu are good for us'? If not a single person is prepared to do so, does that mean there is 100% agreement that sisu are not good for ccfc?
The kcic view has been set out clearly. There have been the usual insults and going off on tangents on here, but I haven't seen anyone engage with the substance of the email. If you disagree with it, chucking insults/distractions isn't helpful but specific responses to the bullet points with which you disagree would be much appreciated.
Nick
Administrator
Michael, it isn't just about the title is it? Why do people keep saying that because you disagree with the content then you must think this...... People aren't disagreeing with the Title, they are disagreeing with the content. I could sit here and say "Today is Monday" on one line but then fill the post with loads of other stuff but then when somebody disagrees with the other bits keep saying "So are you saying today isn't Monday?"
I took the time to reply with some points, have you had chance to have a look at that or reply?
The view has been set out clearly for this week....
I took the time to reply with some points, have you had chance to have a look at that or reply?
The view has been set out clearly for this week....
ccfcway
Well-Known Member
Nick
Administrator
or "Sky Blues Talk 2013/14" as I call it
So you are saying it isn't Monday today then? I am right though aren't I? It is Monday today.
bigfatronssba
Well-Known Member
Namely because no one answers it.
ccfcway
Well-Known Member
agreed with that, any result will surely mean an appeal ?
ccfcway
Well-Known Member
this day in 3 weeks when they announce the new stadium it will be monday.
Nick
Administrator
ajsccfc
Well-Known Member
Nobody's stupid enough to think that a thread is merely a title and 'AGREE YES NO'
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Well one person clearly is.
bigfatronssba
Well-Known Member
But surely we all agree that sisu are unfit owners and we would be better off without them?
Therefore surely Michael is right to be critical of sisu?
Therefore surely Michael is right to be critical of sisu?
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Lots of things haven't been good for CCFC;
The Ricoh rent agreement
The sale of Highfield road
Freddie Eastwood
Andy thorn
So what? Why Michael we not discuss the subsequent content of the mailer and the purpose of it? What will it achieve?
You may not agree with RobS and his stance but the campaign has some strategic purpose. People can support the strategy or not. There is, though, undeniably a strategy. With you'd campaign where is the strategic actions behind it? All I see is a shouting ranting "sisu out" script which has no way of laying out a roadmap to achieve the stated end game.
Ian1779
Well-Known Member
Firstly - no one has said SISU have been good for us so far.
Really... because I am confused...
Your comment from 1 week ago.
Excerpts from your OP yesterday.
Now forgive me if I feel you are a little contradictory.
Really... because I am confused...
Your comment from 1 week ago.
Excerpts from your OP yesterday.
Now forgive me if I feel you are a little contradictory.
MichaelCCFC
New Member
Looking at this from a campaigning perspective a lot of it is about taking complex points and honing them down to what is in effect a slogan. Flying kites is a way of testing options.
If I'm understanding the critical posts on here correctly, no one is saying sisu are good for ccfc. So a slogan of 'sisu are not good for ccfc' should have 100% support. I've not seen any criticism of the 'success on the pitch, financial stability off it and the interests of the team and fans to come first' theme so that also seems to have pretty much 100% support. So that then begs the question of why a theme/slogan of 'it's time for sisu to move on' is not agreed with by some posters on here. That's the bit I don't understand and would welcome explanation/alternative options on ('let sisu have the ricoh' has previously been an explicit/implicit theme in different places but if sisu are not good for ccfc that approach contains a fundamental contradiction)