Another bumper Ricoh crowd expected for Wasps' home game against Sale Sharks (5 Viewers)
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ccfcway
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they didnt own Adams park did ?, isnt it all about the 365 revenues ?
stupot07
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It's ok Italia says we don't need them.
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Does that include the buy one get one this game for free offer too and the other frees? So it could be around 8,000 - 9,000 for their second game.... Pretty big drop off that, the Gillingham effect.
(I just moved this post out into a new thread)
It pretty much looks like an advert that article
Which staff did they use when they sold 28 odd thousand then if they need extras to sell 11? The PR Machine is ticking away
Keep an eye on CCFC articles then look at the bottom of Wasps ones where they have the adverts on where to buy tickets, opening times, prices etc etc
Do they have as many adverts as at the bottom of your posts? ;-)
Grendel
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Well its certainly possible that the wasps gates will be at that level. With give aways i would still expect this one at around 15,000 but its likely to decline to those sort of levels quicker than expected.
The strategy looks as haphazard as sisu's. Gamble on making this work which seems to require European qualification. Also they have zero experience as a management company
The level of investment is small though and if it doesn't work they could put the Holding company into administration and just move elsewhere.
Could be a very grim time for the council.
ccfcway
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"haphazard" would suggest SISU actually have a strategy
chiefdave
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Would be interesting to see what the plan is in the event of ACL going into administration. What will happen to the loan? It's now been proven that the value you of the loan to ACL is way above the value of the lease. I would assume that should ACL go into admin the lease reverts to CCC but what then.
Who will pay the loan, ACL would have no assets to sell in the event they weren't purchased out of administration and ended up liquidated and any buyer would likely make a p in the £ offer on the loan.
That's before you consider how much CCC could resell the lease for, ACL going out of business would certainly lower the value of the lease and that assumes anyone wants it. If, a big if of course, we do end up in a new stadium there's a danger the council will end up with millions in debt to pay off and an empty stadium nobody wants.
Sure people will say it will never happen but Wasps had no issue with moving halfway up the country so wouldn't have a problem with another move. They could hail it a glorious return to London, doing it for the fans etc.
Grendel
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Of course they have a strategy.
Latest I guess is that they will make a land purchase. Planking permission will drag on and they will sit back and see how wasps experiment develops
If it hits the buffers they will just sit and wait.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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What happens if it doesn't?
Grendel
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close the club I would guess
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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How long do they wait 1,5 10 years?
italiahorse
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They prefer to sit back and be victims, like a lot on here.
Concentrate on getting what we want and work with them
I prefer Wasps strategy. Permanent tenure. Good PR. Winning games. Trying for Europe. As opposed to - plodding on, bullshitting about a small stadium and waiting, hoping for the best. If it hits the Buffers, at least they tried to acheive something.
Nick
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Could never have guessed you liked wasps...
chiefdave
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So if SISU decide we need to move 100 miles away you'd be fine with that?
No. I have never watched them. No idea who plays for them and am not interested. Still, they are in a better position than we are in Coventry. I would prefer we were in their position and in Coventry. No, I don't want SISU to move to London, but I regret them screwing up with the Ricoh - yes they did screw up.
Nick
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Probably would be better if you supported Wasps the Rugby Team, not half as interesting as the politics though is it? Who needs the actual sport?
Bob Latchford
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Fickle ?
15,343 at ricoh for wasps game today. wonder what happened to the other 13000 #Ficklefans
15,343 at ricoh for wasps game today. wonder what happened to the other 13000 #Ficklefans
dongonzalos
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That's my opinion as well and it is the worse possible situation for us.
5-7 years of waiting again on a stupid ill thought out plan.
chiefdave
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That's fallen a lot faster than I thought it would. We know there's 3.5K free to schools for a start plus the BOGOF and all the other cheap / free tickets that have been floating around. Plus this season they are providing free transport from Wycombe for all their existing season ticket holders. They will now start to hit the perception problem, people turn up for big events, as we have found when the ground is half empty it gives the impression that the product on offer isn't great and more casual supporters start to drift away. Given that a huge % of their new fanbase would be casual supporters they must be concerned at the speed of the drop off.
Be interesting to see how low the attendances drop in the next 12 months, at this rate can easily see attendances being lower than before they moved.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Be less than 10k in a few more games it seems, our second match was 11k and that was at full price with no gimmicks, free tickets or offers.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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It will be interesting in say 5-10 years time to see if they can build a genuine fan base in the area or is it just people that will just turn up for the event, in 5 years time will you see people going around the city in their Wasps shirts? Or will people just continue to lose interest?
I think there is a fairly #simpleanswer.
There weren't 28000 Wasp fans at the first game #der
Paxman II
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Virtually half the crowd of the first game and I predict it will half again before settling down. Exactly how are they going to be sustainable in the long term and without a football club as tenant providing crucial additional income streams from their 10, 15 and even 30k crowds? (even if we stay rent free) If we stayed rent free we would want a share in that income too. can't see WASP long term being sustainable without the football club remaining.
I will go against the grain not as a cheerleader but based on cold hard unemotional thinking .
I think they will level out to 12k-15k with big European matches factored In ,couple that with huge Corporate and Sponsorships
leaves me feeling they will be around for a long time .
Might be holes In my thinking but that's how I see It going .
I think they will level out to 12k-15k with big European matches factored In ,couple that with huge Corporate and Sponsorships
leaves me feeling they will be around for a long time .
Might be holes In my thinking but that's how I see It going .
Sky Blue Pete
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It was good today. Think it will settle at similar figure to ccfc.
chiefdave
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At some point you'd hope our never ending downward spiral will end and we'll get promotion and start moving back up. At that point how many of the lapsed CCFC fans now going to Wasps games will suddenly realise they preferred us all along and switch back?
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Doesn't look 15k tbh, wonder how many free tickets/season tickets went unused but were still counted
letsallsingtogether
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Funny you should say that.
So if a Rugby club can't be sustainable without a Football club, how does a Football club with About the same attendance figures survive without a Rugger club?
Got a time on that posting CD .
Looks a bit thin doesn't It .
No floodlights Empty CT stand ,Pre kick off or HT?