I don't get just abusing players (certainly your own) but I understand exasperation at individuals for mistakes and poor decisions, and even collectively booing of the team at full time for a poor performance.
Issues such as racism and sexism are still very much alive, though I do honestly believe they are changing slowly. The fact there is a long-standing joke about people squirming over granny/grandad's comments indicate to me it's slowly improving but has a long way to go. I don't doubt that a few generations from now our grandkids will be embarrassed by stuff we say as it's not deemed acceptable any more.
The advent of mobile phone cameras does allow it to be highlighted more in society and while I think overall incidents are reducing, more incidents are being shown than previously and those suffering the abuse feel more empowered to report it and that something might get done.
But neither do I think abuse of black players by white fans is necessarily racist in nature - often it's just because said player has been shit. Undoubtedly some of the abuse is racist in nature and those people should be made an example of, but I think it's a very dangerous idea to make the assumption a black player being booed by a white fan is automatically racism. I've seen black guys in pubs during England games abuse Rooney. When Beckham got sent off in the WC everyone in the place regardless of race was apoplectic at him - were the black people there doing it because they're racist? No.
We're still a massively white majority country so any racist incidents are far more likely to be white aggression on other minorities, but I very much doubt a similar mindset doesn't exist the other way round as well.
BrexiteersLike it or not this is symptomatic of our times. Now before anyone starts I'm not claiming that all Brexiteers are this or that. However there are some who are seemingly bouyed on, and believe it gives them a platform to revert to unacceptable behaviour towards others. However it does show that the problem never really went away.
Brexiteers
It is fact that if you voted to leave the EU that you have a special room in public places where black people aren't allowed.
Given that many member states are far more abusive to black people I would probably say no
The point is more when it is racist abuse. If I was to boo Jordan Willis or Bakayoko or say "you were shit mate" that isn't racist. When I use racist slurs that point to their race, that does make it racist. A black guy in a pub saying Rooney is a twat isn't being racist, if he started referring to his race then it would be.
That's part of the point I was trying to make, albeit poorly. I remember the game Stephen Hughes had to go in goal in after our keeper got sent off by the ref, who was Asian. The WT were incensed by the decision and were shouting abuse at the ref, including me - that wasn't racist. I heard one guy to the left of me shout "you stupid P*** c***". That WAS racist and I felt ashamed to support the same team as that prick. At school I did hear black kids use the term 'honky' on occasion which is racism as well.
I've wondered a bit about Nish Kumar as well. He does a lot of stuff on race, as you'd expect from a BAME comedian, but some of it could definitely be accused of being lazy generic racial stereotyping of white people. If you reversed a lot of what he said being said by a white comedian about Asians they'd never work again.
It's comedy though isn't it, it's the same as Paul Chowdhry. He rips the piss out of white people (Dave) and different Asians. You can see that it is comedy and is it intended that way and it isn't usually aggressive.
It's completely different to nearly bursting a blood vessel in somebody's face shouting things.
Of course racism can work in all different directions, there are bellends in every walk of life no matter what colour their skin is.
The people who piss me off are the ones who are actually racist and the people who claim racism and act offended when it isn't.
I remember the Forest Green away game earlier in the year. We were stood next to a group - including a girl - who were hurling racist abuse at both sets of players. We were packed in tight so couldn't move that far away from them. Most around me were tutting and were obviously disgusted but no one said anything, including me. You don't know how these idiots are going to react nowadays. A sad reflection on society.
I've personally never thrown abuse at players like that.
Someone filmed it and said it was racist.Anyone know what was shouted or is it case of people shouting at a black player so it must be racism. Or are you just up you're own arses?
Which seems to have been taken over by someone shouted at someone so it must mean that.And anyway, if you look at the thread it was talking about the abuse of footballers in general.
Anyone know what was shouted or is it case of people shouting at a black player so it must be racism. Or are you just up you're own arses?
Or it's an example of how footballers are abused, in this case racially abused and it happened just yesterday.Which seems to have been taken over by someone shouted at someone so it must mean that.
Sterling also confirmed it was
Don’t they have weak ankles or something?Must be that race card again.
a) I don't know what was saidOr it's an example of how footballers are abused, in this case racially abused and it happened just yesterday.
I do wonder why there are people who take a contrary view when the evidence was undisputed.?
It's never the wrong time to do the right thing, halftimebovril.
b) I especially don't get offended on someone else's behalf
a) I don't know what was said
b) I don't get easily offended and I especially don't get offended on someone else's behalf
c) I'm sure Raheem Sterling is on enough per week to rise above shouting from the stands
a) I don't know what was said
b) I don't get easily offended and I especially don't get offended on someone else's behalf
c) I'm sure Raheem Sterling is on enough per week to rise above shouting from the stands
When in a hole stop digging.a) I don't know what was said
b) I don't get easily offended and I especially don't get offended on someone else's behalf
c) I'm sure Raheem Sterling is on enough per week to rise above shouting from the stands
Are you never been offended if someone has been treated appallingly?a) I don't know what was said
b) I don't get easily offended and I especially don't get offended on someone else's behalf
c) I'm sure Raheem Sterling is on enough per week to rise above shouting from the stands
Ignoring the multiple hundreds of times every week at football matches when black players get shouted at and nobody suggests it’s racism.
Nice angle though.
And how many times during football matches are white players abused,slated etc, thousands it must be, and nothing is ever mentioned,but if its a black player you must be racist right.
And how many times during football matches are white players abused,slated etc, thousands it must be, and nothing is ever mentioned,but if its a black player you must be racist right.
Have white players been abused for the colour of their skin?And how many times during football matches are white players abused,slated etc, thousands it must be, and nothing is ever mentioned,but if its a black player you must be racist right.
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