Yes some parts will get fudged I don't think anyone doubts that. Most of the mps want to remain so it's inevitable I guess.
As for the point, I hear the eu will want to teach us a lesson and not give us a good deal which is fine but when their car plants shut down and workers laid off in these industries then they are cutting their nose off to spite their face.
All well and good teaching us a lesson but if their own workforce and population gets poorer and out of work then I wouldn't think people will take this lying down.
I notice Merkel to get re elected is taking a particular stance and yes she will get re elected. She wants votes. She will get them.
Brexit ls not being mentioned in the election campaign so far. Things like the diesel scandal and integration are more important.
A bit closer to home.
Yes and jobs and economics.
earldon sky blues response
"yes nazis are a problem BUT ISLAM"
Am I wrong though?
Come on, debate me.
A bit closer to home.
Will need to clamp down on this hard and quickly
Same thing really as Islamic terrorism brainwashed individuals stirred by perceived injustice
We need unequivocal statements against this additional potential form of terrorism. No, but the Muslim terrorists are just as bad. No ifs, no buts, no deflecting- just condemn it. The others have already been condemned and will be condemned every time they do something or crawl from under their stone.
Statements aren't enough. Condemnations aren't enough. People need to be rooted out and punished
Statements aren't enough. Condemnations aren't enough. People need to be rooted out and punished
Meanwhile in the German army, 275 cases under investigation:
Pro-Nazi Soldiers in German Army Raise Alarm
terrorism is hideous fullstop. be it nazi or jihadi.
Correct. Someone being killed by a Nazi is just as bad as someone being killed by a Jihadi.
However, what are the numbers? How many people were killed by Nazis during the past decade, and how many were killed by Jihadis?
In fact, the Jihadi mentality is very similar to the Nazi ideology. One thing they have have in common is the genocidal slaughter of Jews. There are even more anti-semitic passages in the Qu'ran than there are in Hitler's Mein Kampf.
I think you've misunderstood the meaning of the word genocide.
Really? In what way?
Correct. Someone being killed by a Nazi is just as bad as someone being killed by a Jihadi.
However, what are the numbers? How many people were killed by Nazis during the past decade, and how many were killed by Jihadis?
In fact, the Jihadi mentality is very similar to the Nazi ideology. One thing they have have in common is the genocidal slaughter of Jews. There are even more anti-semitic passages in the Qu'ran than there are in Hitler's Mein Kampf.
Over several years - not in one year. The recent ones seem to have targeted or wanted to target refugees ( or make attacks to be blamed on refugees ). Mates of the AFD ( the most recent was a member of AfD ). Weren't you bragging about the AfD growing and your German contacts being in it?
We need unequivocal statements against this additional potential form of terrorism. No, but the Muslim terrorists are just as bad. No ifs, no buts, no deflecting- just condemn it. The others have already been condemned and will be condemned every time they do something or crawl from under their stone.
Correct. Someone being killed by a Nazi is just as bad as someone being killed by a Jihadi.
However, what are the numbers? How many people were killed by Nazis during the past decade, and how many were killed by Jihadis?
In fact, the Jihadi mentality is very similar to the Nazi ideology. One thing they have have in common is the genocidal slaughter of Jews. There are even more anti-semitic passages in the Qu'ran than there are in Hitler's Mein Kampf.
I unequivocally condemn all thoughts and acts of terrorism.We need unequivocal statements against this additional potential form of terrorism. No, but the Muslim terrorists are just as bad. No ifs, no buts, no deflecting- just condemn it. The others have already been condemned and will be condemned every time they do something or crawl from under their stone.
No condemnation there?Over several years - not in one year. The recent ones seem to have targeted or wanted to target refugees ( or make attacks to be blamed on refugees ). Mates of the AFD ( the most recent was a member of AfD ). Weren't you bragging about the AfD growing and your German contacts being in it?
Which is basically where this thread should have started and finished. A few people saying fuck those guys they're dickheads not 25 pages of yeah but this, yeah but that.I unequivocally condemn all thoughts and acts of terrorism.
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No condemnation there?
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Note the word 'potential' not 'actual'. In my view actual terrorists who have committed atrocities are worse.
These guys may be Neanderthal extremists but did they actually hoard armaments or attack anything like Salman Abedi, Khuram Shazad Butt, Rachid Redouane, or Youssef Zaghba actually did?
No. The latest group just planned to assasinate such people as the president of Germany. Being in the military they may have pulled it off. They also wanted to commit a terrorust act ( or acts ) to be blamed on refugees. The only difference is that they got found out in advance.
The problem is that we ghettoise however - the communities that actually live side-by-side work OK. The ones where people are in discrete groups however... it's the fear of the unknown that leads people to decide that everybody's like the evil bloke featured in the press.The underlying problem is human beings tribal nature and suspicion of people different to them from the beginning of time. Though I love the concept I do wonder given this human nature whether multi cultural and multi faith communities will ever truly live in harmony
Are you really making a “at least we aren’t Jihadis” argument?
And that last line just simply isn’t true. I’d love to see somebody evidence for that belief.
You are aware that hitler recruited Muslims into the SS and other regiments and laughably said they had Ayrean descent? I'm sure Himmler or Hess said Islam as a religion was very aligned to Nazi ideology.
Didn't you know that?
Are you really making a “at least we aren’t Jihadis” argument?
And that last line just simply isn’t true. I’d love to see somebody evidence for that belief.
The problem is that we ghettoise however - the communities that actually live side-by-side work OK. The ones where people are in discrete groups however... it's the fear of the unknown that leads people to decide that everybody's like the evil bloke featured in the press.
On your first comment. No I did not say that at all.
On your second comment. The Qu'ran compares Jews to apes and pigs and calls for their extermination. I would post links but your first comment shows that you are unable to follow basic logic and/or read.
You are aware that hitler recruited Muslims into the SS and other regiments and laughably said they had Ayrean descent? I'm sure Himmler or Hess said Islam as a religion was very aligned to Nazi ideology.
Didn't you know that?
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