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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2016
  • #141
chiefdave said:
His sister has tried to start up a Justice for Johnson campaign. Its gone about as well as you would imagine.

How can you have a campaign for justice for someone who pled guilty???
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Apparently they are appealing the verdict for which he pleaded not guilty but was found guilty, fucking pathetic
 
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ranstone

New Member
  • Mar 9, 2016
  • #142
Nick said:
Unless she means for the sentence.
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But he hasn't been sentenced yet (albeit he's been told to expect a custodial sentence)
 
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ranstone

New Member
  • Mar 9, 2016
  • #143
Otis said:
Yeah, remember this one. It's ridiculous isn't it and there is no consistency whatsoever.
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Slightly different IMO .... she was age 20 and clearly a can short of a six pack, the law is different for men and women (in relation to having sex), if a girl is over 13 but under 16 and the man is under 24 then he has a defence in certain circumstances.
Even if it was the same offence, Johnson would be outside of this age anyway in other words he's old enough to know better.

He deserves every hour he spends in prison and the victim should fleece him of every £ he's got, particularly the £3 million he supposedly earnt after Sunderland knew what he'd done (debatable who actually knew at Sunderland !)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 9, 2016
  • #144
ranstone said:
Slightly different IMO .... she was age 20 and clearly a can short of a six pack, the law is different for men and women (in relation to having sex), if a girl is over 13 but under 16 and the man is under 24 then he has a defence in certain circumstances.
Even if it was the same offence, Johnson would be outside of this age anyway in other words he's old enough to know better.

He deserves every hour he spends in prison and the victim should fleece him of every £ he's got, particularly the £3 million he supposedly earnt after Sunderland knew what he'd done (debatable who actually knew at Sunderland !)
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What about the teaching assistants and teachers?

Should the victim fleece him? Is she actually going to be mentally scarred for the rest of her life?
 
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ranstone

New Member
  • Mar 9, 2016
  • #145
Nick said:
What about the teaching assistants and teachers?

Should the victim fleece him? Is she actually going to be mentally scarred for the rest of her life?
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Not sure what you mean about teachers ?

perhaps not fleece him probably bad terminology on my part ..... but certainly enough to have a significant impact on his wealth, the reality is he will serve a relatively short sentence in a low risk prison (eventually), play football for the prison team, probably be a celebrity figure to some other inmates and then come out as arrogant as he went in.

Does she need to be mentally scared for he rest of her life to have been judged to have suffered ? aside of whatever happened with him it seems she is still suffering the backlash socially and was dragged through a court appearance at a relatively young age.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #146
Sentencing Today, everywhere still saying at least 5 years.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-used-rubber-penis-pretend-7616900 - She got 39 months for pretending to be a boy and having sex with girls aged from 12.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #147
ranstone said:
Not sure what you mean about teachers ?
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About teachers who have full sex with pupils and get less.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #148
Six years! I think he has been made an example of
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #149
I'm not normally an apologist for this but 6 years seems staggering. Ched Evans had 5 years. Lee Hughes 6 years.

I don't get it.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #150
6 years?! I don't want to sound disrespectful but I personally think that is too long.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #151
Grendel said:
I'm not normally an apologist for this but 6 years seems staggering. Ched Evans had 5 years. Lee Hughes 6 years.

I don't get it.
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Nope! Me neither. He had to go to prison, but where is the consistency?

Rape (Evans) is so much more a despicable crime and obviously Lee Hughes killed someone. I don't get it either.
 

albatross

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #152
Grendel said:
I'm not normally an apologist for this but 6 years seems staggering. Ched Evans had 5 years. Lee Hughes 6 years.

I don't get it.
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What??


This is all about Intent, continual grooming her knowing full well her age, no remorse and then not pleading guilty. Thats why its six years. judge deems it all premeditated and calculating.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #153
No sympathy but you could kill and get less
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #154
albatross said:
What??


This is all about Intent, continual grooming her knowing full well her age, no remorse and then not pleading guilty. Thats why its six years. judge deems it all premeditated and calculating.
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Why do teachers get 2 years for full sex with pupils?
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #155
Problem is Evans & Hughes should have had longer sentences rather than Johnson's being disproportionate.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #156
Nick said:
Why do teachers get 2 years for full sex with pupils?
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Exactly!
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #157
SEXUAL TOUCHING: Five years.

KISSING: Four months (concurrent).

GROOMING: One year (consecutive).

That's why it's 6 years.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #158
hill83 said:
SEXUAL TOUCHING: Five years.

KISSING: Four months (concurrent).

GROOMING: One year (consecutive).

That's why it's 6 years.
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Isn't grooming just as bad? Without the grooming the other two wouldn't happen would they?

If they had stronger sentences for grooming then that might stop the other things from happening. It's the grooming that leads to offences.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #159
Rolf Harris got less didn't he? They were as young as seven
 

robbieray

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #160
Pity he wont do 6 years
 

albatross

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #161
Nick said:
Rolf Harris got less didn't he? They were as young as seven
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I believe with Rolf Harris and Stuart Hall they had to be sentenced within the Law as to stood at the time the offences were committed, so probably applying 1970's and 1980's legislation rather than 2015
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #162
robbieray said:
Pity he wont do 6 years
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The maximum he can have taken off is 10% apparantly. Assuming his appeal fails.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #163
Also this:

Breaking: Adam Johnson was arrested on suspicion of possessing extreme pornography involving animals, but police are no longer pursuing it.

Just a bit of banter though hey Pipes?
 

robbieray

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #164
Urgh weirdo
 
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Pipehitterz

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #165
hill83 said:
Also this:

Breaking: Adam Johnson was arrested on suspicion of possessing extreme pornography involving animals, but police are no longer pursuing it.

Just a bit of banter though hey Pipes?
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nobody said it was banter? strange?

equally suspicion, isnt guilt, and no pursuing usually means it wasnt true

anyways, back to the facts, absolutely staggering sentence taking many other cases into account
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #166
hill83 said:
The maximum he can have taken off is 10% apparantly. Assuming his appeal fails.
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Guessing it could have been a lot less had he have pleaded guilty and shown remorse.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #167
I think the point being made is the huge inconsistency over a range of crimes not that the bloke deserves any pity
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #168
hill83 said:
Also this:

Breaking: Adam Johnson was arrested on suspicion of possessing extreme pornography involving animals, but police are no longer pursuing it.

Just a bit of banter though hey Pipes?
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Could it just be he typed 'hairy beaver' in his search engine and the wrong thing came up?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #169
Macca said:
I think the point being made is the huge inconsistency over a range of crimes not that the bloke deserves any pity
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Exactly, there's no way he shouldn't have been sent down. But the sentencing isn't consistent is it?
 

Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #170
A better punishment would have been a massive fine which could have been seized from his football wages. Since he will now languish in jail, there will be no income to distribute.
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #171
Gazolba said:
A better punishment would have been a massive fine which could have been seized from his football wages. Since he will now languish in jail, there will be no income to distribute.
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What????

So basically the rich can just buy there way out of prison????? Sounds just like the Thai justice system........
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #172
It does in all fairness seem harsh. No responsibility seems to have been taken by the parents of this young teen or the girl herself. that's not excusing Johnson by the way - he has been an idiot. But the law is the law and must be followed even though we can find it inconsistent where it's values are attributed.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2016
  • #173
Paxman II said:
It does in all fairness seem harsh. No responsibility seems to have been taken by the parents of this young teen or the girl herself. that's not excusing Johnson by the way - he has been an idiot. But the law is the law and must be followed even though we can find it inconsistent where it's values are attributed.
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Can't believe what I've just read here

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2016
  • #174
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...ootballer-will-never-work-again-a3210811.html
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2016
  • #175
Macca said:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...ootballer-will-never-work-again-a3210811.html
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Hmmm.

Completely ruined the bloke's life, used violence and this victim has had 3 heart attacks as a result and will never work again, but the perpetrator gets 3 years, 3 months.

Adam Johnson gets 6 years.

System is nuts.
 
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