Grendel
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I repeat this is a claim made which has no documents to support the claim.
We do have a letter which says the offer was for 125 year lease which the council never disputed.
I thought they said they would consider any 'reasonable' offer for ACL and that the freehold was not for sale.
But based on your evidence I could be wrong.
Oh hold on ......... I'm right.
So you know even use the CET as your reference source.
Comedy gold.
Ok, but has Joy ever denied the unencumbered bit? Has she ever denied threatening endless litigation? Are we experiencing endless litigation her having not got the unencumbered freehold? Do the facts not fit the story?
You're right but you won't see it but your grandchildren mightNo we're not facing endless litigation. It will definitely end one day.
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Fabricated nonsense.
No we're not facing endless litigation. It will definitely end one day.
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Well if it is fabricated nonsense like you claim I guess that the real question is who fabricated it?
Les Reid certainly believed it enough to post it on twitter, sorry on my phone so can't do a link but here's what he said and when
"Sisu want unencumbered freehold or new long lease & ACL removed by council. Ann says Higgs won't sell
10:06 a.m. - 15 Jan 2014"
Oh great...... an excuse to comment on Les Reid...... I think he was telling the truth on that occaision.
So who told him? :thinking about:
Well if it is fabricated nonsense like you claim I guess that the real question is who fabricated it?
Les Reid certainly believed it enough to post it on twitter, sorry on my phone so can't do a link but here's what he said and when
"Sisu want unencumbered freehold or new long lease & ACL removed by council. Ann says Higgs won't sell
10:06 a.m. - 15 Jan 2014"
So who told him? :thinking about:
Well that puts the nail in the coffin for that one as according to Martcov he is a serial liar.
Still there is the letter........,,,
Well that puts the nail in the coffin for that one as according to Martcov he is a serial liar.
Still there is the letter........,,,
See above post ( mixed in with Tony's ). Has Joy said she would take a lease with restrictions? Yes or no.
See above post ( mixed in with Tony's ). Has Joy said she would take a lease with restrictions? Yes or no.
Not to my knowledge, but those who say different surely have a link to confirm it and put this bullshit to bed once and for all
I would still rather have the owners of CCFC having control of the Arena with CCFC badges alone than with a team who have zero affinity with the area. But maybe I'm alone in having that point of view. Mainly because if SISU controlled the Arena then there would be a hell of a better chance of them selling up and leaving as they would have something to sell; and there would be no talk of having to move and find another home; which I have to say I agree with.
Like I said I'm pleased in a way it's happened as it shows Mutton up...and...those who said "anyone but SISU". All those begging letters hindered not helped.
Well that puts the nail in the coffin for that one as according to Martcov he is a serial liar.
Still there is the letter........,,,
Restrictions? What restrictions do wasps have on their lease to terminate existing contracts. I thought that Lucas said the fine print was confidebtial.
Many leases offer the same rights as freehold. Are you saying wasps have restrictions? What are they and how do you know.
Yes by the way we know that she would accept half the length lease and for half share. As it's half share it was an extension to the existing term with the council still excercusing overall control.
Here's what the BBC reported in the 14th of January, again on my phone so can't do a link
"Coventry City Council is willing to consider bids for the Ricoh Arena and the surrounding land, the authority's leader has confirmed.
Councillor Ann Lucas said the council would listen to "reasonable and sensible offers" for the freehold but stressed the site would not be sold "unencumbered".
Strange that on the 14th you have AL saying this and then the very next day we get another media source saying that SISU want exactly what we were informed just the day before wasn't available? Coincidence?
So you know even use the CET as your reference source.
Comedy gold.
I can't like a post here but I would if I could
Have trouble following the English there. So, she has said she doesn't want unencumbered freehold and would be happy with a lease that could contain restrictions- e.g. in the Butts lease the Rugby Club can only use the stadium for Rugby and cannot knock it down for some other purpose. Have you got a link to her letter? That would clear everything up. What restrictions would she have accepted if she could not get the equivalent of "unencumbered"?
I'm going to frame this post for posterity. It's honestly the funniest thing I've read on here.
The funnier thing is you won't even know why.
Sorry? You've said on a couple of posts wasps have a leasehold with restrictions.
What restrictions?
Do you know if they have any? Could they "knock the Ricoh down?"
As I have said the link is on a thread started recently. It's of interest you, given your total impartiality, have failed to scrutinise it.
Lucas made this claim. Lucas says lots of things as does her comrades. One is that the Ricoh was always built for two franchises.
I answered the question.
You made a statement that wasps accepted the lease with restrictions. What restrictions?
Restrictions? What restrictions do wasps have on their lease to terminate existing contracts. I thought that Lucas said the fine print was confidebtial.
Many leases offer the same rights as freehold. Are you saying wasps have restrictions? What are they and how do you know.
Yes by the way we know that she would accept half the length lease and for half share. As it's half share it was an extension to the existing term with the council still excercusing overall control.
Wasps would have to pay to cancel contracts. SISU didn't want to pay for the Ricoh. So what makes you think that they would want to pay to cancel contracts?
A week or so before the SISU made a bid for the AEHC shares in 2014 they said they were not interested. They then make a bid via the administrator that we don't have the details of except for some community initiatives that the Charity were not interested in being a partner to. For the charity I would guess a clean break was very attractive being tied in to projects with SISU was not - perhaps understandably. Was it really a serious offer or one to say we tried - I am sure we all have our own opinions on that. But again their own bid put a value on the Charity shares of £2.77m.
Valuations are opinions at a specific time for a specific purpose based on certain criteria that change with the purpose. They will vary. They may or may not form part of something that is valued in another manner/purpose at a much lower amount.
Sorry? You've said on a couple of posts wasps have a leasehold with restrictions.
What restrictions?
Do you know if they have any? Could they "knock the Ricoh down?"
As I have said the link is on a thread started recently. It's of interest you, given your total impartiality, have failed to scrutinise it.
Lucas made this claim. Lucas says lots of things as does her comrades. One is that the Ricoh was always built for two franchises.
I answered the question.
You made a statement that wasps accepted the lease with restrictions. What restrictions?
And thanks to CCC your great, great, great, great grandchildren might see a CCFC owned Ricoh in 2264.You're right but you won't see it but your grandchildren might
And thanks to CCC your great, great, great, great grandchildren might see a CCFC owned Ricoh in 2264.
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Still can't understand how a business being liquidated and owes money can bid for a share in ACL?
Surely if there is money available it should be used to pay the debts?
The Skybluetalk finance course has failed?
And thanks to CCC your great, great, great, great grandchildren might see a CCFC owned Ricoh in 2264.
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Apologies. Obviously i was lying.Your CCC whipping fetish is getting boring now. Can't you let someone whip you for a change?
Apologies. Obviously i was lying.
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Your CCC whipping fetish is getting boring now. Can't you let someone whip you for a change?
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