Bingo Jordan it's now sacrosanct as of this evening's news, not suggests, could be.
Bingo Jordan it's now sacrosanct as of this evening's news, not suggests, could be.Having had a look at some figures and others views it appears.
10/1000 60 year old - mortality rate
13-14/1000 60 year olds - mortality rate *new*
So an increase in mortality from 1% to 1.3% or 1.4%.
But I bet the headlines tomorrow will be 40% increase
Bingo Jordan it's now sacrosanct as of this evening's news, not suggests, could be.
Quite scaryTgat initial report says there are limitations to the data then right afterwards says it’s probable the new variant is more deadly.
Quite scary
Anyone booking holidays now is plain daft
Depends
Piers Morgan accused of taking Antigua holiday over
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Is it cover or maybe used to resist the inevitable pressure to open up?Quite baffling it’s just rushing out data from limited sample sizes
Update for anyone interested, Day 4 of experiencing symptoms and today I thought I was starting to improve slightly. However, after taking my daughter for a few laps round the garden to try and get her some fresh air/tire her out, I’m shattered and feeling as shit as I did yesterday. My partner is feeling a lot better though and she’s about 3/4 days ahead of me, so hopefully the worst is nearly over.
The kids have got some sort of virus; temperatures, coughing, runny nose and generally napping for longer (not moaning about that one). No idea if that’s a separate virus or some form of mild covid. I’m sure someone who is more read will have a view.
Feeling slightly guilty, after moaning about my Partners Dad being the one to give us Covid (which remains true), he’s been taken to hospital via ambulance this afternoon as he’s struggling to breath.
Should help increase the numbers.Coventry and Warwickshire is to get a mass vaccination centre, which will open next week it has been revealed.
The centre will be at Stoneleigh Park and will open some time next week - thought the precise day has yet to be confirmed.
Quite scary
OkNot really as at best if correct which is very dubious it adds .4 to the mortality rate
All the best to you and the family.Update for anyone interested, Day 4 of experiencing symptoms and today I thought I was starting to improve slightly. However, after taking my daughter for a few laps round the garden to try and get her some fresh air/tire her out, I’m shattered and feeling as shit as I did yesterday. My partner is feeling a lot better though and she’s about 3/4 days ahead of me, so hopefully the worst is nearly over.
The kids have got some sort of virus; temperatures, coughing, runny nose and generally napping for longer (not moaning about that one). No idea if that’s a separate virus or some form of mild covid. I’m sure someone who is more read will have a view.
Feeling slightly guilty, after moaning about my Partners Dad being the one to give us Covid (which remains true), he’s been taken to hospital via ambulance this afternoon as he’s struggling to breath.
I'd like to live there, it's lovely
I would too. Would be great to always be able to the answer the question "where are you from?" with "I live in Hope"I'd like to live there, it's lovely
so the caveats are that they're working with very small samples sizes, it's kind of too early to tell and so they have wide confidence intervals, but I'm afraid the preliminary number they're reporting is a 30% increase in mortality. The "point three" comes in if the infection mortality rate (IFR) is around 1%, which I understand it is for 60 year olds, i.e. The old variants had IFR 1% and the new variant of concern has IFR 1.3% for that age group. The increase in mortality seems to be roughly consistent across ages.
We had a cruise round the med booked for may, we did book it early last year but cant see it happening and i doubt i would go anyway.Anyone booking holidays now is plain daft
Having had a look at some figures and others views it appears.
10/1000 60 year old - mortality rate
13-14/1000 60 year olds - mortality rate *new*
So an increase in mortality from 1% to 1.3% or 1.4%.
But I bet the headlines tomorrow will be 40% increase
I mean, that is a 40% increase....
Is it cover or maybe used to resist the inevitable pressure to open up?
no
As was stated the hospital data does not back up the very small sample size study. This was explained at todays presser and it was clear Whitty and Vallance did not agree with how it was framed.
It is morally wrong to spread such information based on such weak data and it is clearly a government looking for excuses.
The way it is being reported by the press and some people on here completely ignores the starting point
That’s exactly what it is i
It’s not the first time though. It was done to justify the start of the second lockdown (the 4k deaths per day which was unnecessary at the time and subsequently proved to be based on out of date data and very much a worst worst case scenario even if that data was correct)
Playing devils advocate though we have to remember modelling is being done on limited and sometimes inaccurate data. The scientists/modellers release initial findings/commentary and although I wasn’t happy with the above, they can’t really win. You withhold that info and it’s found to be correct and they’d be uproar, you release it now and it’s scaremongering.
I think wingy was right, it was being used to suppress calls from certain Tories to start considering releasing restrictions end Feb/early March. Fact is though it supports the stay at home message and is likely to lead to people being more scared to leave house/mix which ultimately may help.
I personally don’t like it but people have regularly accepted/used imperfect data depending on how they’d want to frame their argument throughout the outbreak
The starting point is nearly 100k people have died David. Adding another 40-95k on that is quite significant.
Small numbers matter when talking about percentages of very large numbers.
No Steve. There isn’t a conspiracy by several university departments and Public Health England to keep lockdown.
Jesus H Christ. I get people are sick of it, but try and keep on planet Earth.
The starting point is nearly 100k people have died David. Adding another 40-95k on that is quite significant.
Small numbers matter when talking about percentages of very large numbers.
Bugger! I am in my 60s. Why can’t it be spread amongst other age groups. It’s discrimination!Having had a look at some figures and others views it appears.
10/1000 60 year old - mortality rate
13-14/1000 60 year olds - mortality rate *new*
So an increase in mortality from 1% to 1.3% or 1.4%.
But I bet the headlines tomorrow will be 40% increase
Anyone can see that it has a part to play but the main reason is a libertarian leader who doesn’t like making decisions that are unpopular.As I said before, the government's latest plan is to blame the variant
We had a cruise round the med booked for may, we did book it early last year but cant see it happening and i doubt i would go anyway.
I guessing its gonna be costa del back garden for us.....
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