Liquid Gold
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From what I've read for proper herd immunity we need 75-80%
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If we can all get done, so much the better. Still unclear how it affects people who seemingly get it mild, so let's move on and be done with it!
David O'Day
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The Pzifer Vaccine in over 60s with only 1 shot maybe
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep. Only in the sun and papers like that for now
David O'Day
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It's a study out of Israel that says it only offer 33% protection instead of the 52% previously thought. Like the data to say the Kent variant is more fatal it is very incomplete but does need looking at. The only counter I've seen people use against it is a study of 1800 doctors in Haifa but that isn't a like for like comparison as it compares younger healthy people in one study to the over 60s in another.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Won’t bother tuning in then
We'll_live_and_die
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They have some really competent people that they roll out, but insist on bringing out this bunch. Seriously not doing the Government any favours.
Skybluefaz
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My 74 year old Dad is booked in for this Friday for his jab in Blackpool.
"Peace of mind for you" I say.
"At least I know I won't die" he replies.
"I'm not sure it's that good Dad".
My Mum and Dad are both booked in for this week now, bit of peace of mind for me.
"Peace of mind for you" I say.
"At least I know I won't die" he replies.
"I'm not sure it's that good Dad".
My Mum and Dad are both booked in for this week now, bit of peace of mind for me.
David O'Day
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Who was it that was asking about getting the Jab at C&NW? My mum had hers earlier today and said it is currently running like clockwork.
You turn up and a door can takes your name and temp. You then go to the reception area where they book you in on the computer, next it's in for the jab and then a sit down for 15 minutes and home.
She was in and out before her actual appointment time
You turn up and a door can takes your name and temp. You then go to the reception area where they book you in on the computer, next it's in for the jab and then a sit down for 15 minutes and home.
She was in and out before her actual appointment time
Brylowes
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I honestly don’t know but I’m assuming you can’t mix n match with the virus, ie: if you receive the Pfizer vaccine for your first jab then only the Pfizer will work for the follow up and the same with the AstraZeneca etc.
Or am I wrong, can any of the 2nd doses be used ?
Or am I wrong, can any of the 2nd doses be used ?
ajsccfc
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Of all the things that have gone wrong in the last year, it's a hell of a relief to see this going so well (touch wood)
My mum should be due in the next round of eligibility and although I'll feel much better when she's a few weeks after the second dose, it'll be a massive weight off just to know she's had the first
My mum should be due in the next round of eligibility and although I'll feel much better when she's a few weeks after the second dose, it'll be a massive weight off just to know she's had the first
David O'Day
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Not sure as don't the Pzifer and AZ vaccines work differently?
Brighton Sky Blue
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One uses mutated chimp virus the other just uses the viral RNA, they produce the same effect but in quite different ways. It is much better to be consistent as that’s what each was studied with.
Brylowes
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That’s what I mean, I’ve not seen it mentioned anywhere.
if the same vaccine is needed for 1st and 2nd dose it puts a lot more pressure on making sure of availability,
With them pushing back 2nd doses up to 12 weeks I hope they’re absolutely confident that the particular vaccine needed for 2nd doses will be available in 12 weeks time.
Brylowes
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That’s sort of what I thought, another reason to 2nd jab in the recommended 3 - 4 weeks.
I’ve thought all along this would be the route to the obligatory government fuck up
and I still do.
Brylowes
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Best of luck with your new venture Pete
what exactly is it that you’re doing ?Wonder if it’s something I might be interested in.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Long piece on the news about school reopening, not once do they speak to a teacher. Thanks for the vote of confidence
Sky Blue Pete
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Furnished holiday home. I can dm the website if you are interested. In cornwallBest of luck with your new venture Pete
Wonder if it’s something I might be interested in.
LastGarrison
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Dog friendly?
fernandopartridge
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Along similar lines to a previous post about the interval between doses where I suggested 3 weeks was a minimum
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep we’ve got a dog so has to be
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Cheers for the transparency.
skybluetony176
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It’s probably oxygen thieves Julia Hartley-Brewer, Laurence Fox, Nigel Farage and Desmond Swain.
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I find Laurence Fox an odd one. I fully supported his stance on the QT episode, and actually sought out his views initially, to find that I had some acceptance of what he was saying. But now, like Hartley-Brewer it's as if being objectionable is just another form of income. He has tipped over into the tithead category for me.
Can I just take this opp to say again that I loath Dominic Cummings? I know that I'm developing an illness over this, and that's it's becoming almost psychopathic.
Can I just take this opp to say again that I loath Dominic Cummings? I know that I'm developing an illness over this, and that's it's becoming almost psychopathic.
David O'Day
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3 weeks is the recommended interval by the manufacture. That study assumes all vaccines work the same.
Brylowes
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Yes please, i suspect there will come a time this Spring when things begin to open up and travel is permitted, we run a pub for a living so not envisaging being able to open for at least a couple of months afterwards.
Hopefully should be left with a window of opportunity to take a break of some kind,
David O'Day
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Brylowes
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But is there a point where if the 2nd dose is left to long the 1st becomes less effective, or worse still is rendered ineffective.
David O'Day
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read my last post she's wrong as per the phase 1/2 trials
fernandopartridge
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German regulators reckon Oxford vaccine only 8% efficacy in the over 65s. If true a complete and utter disaster.