Holland reintroducing some restrictions after lifting lockdown and cases doubling in two weeks.
Hasn't had an impacton hospitalisations but they reckon if its going they'll start seeing the impact next week. Fingers crossed there is no impact
So it really is a free for all then as everyone will use the worst case scenario to justify their selfish behaviour towards others. Lots of people get pissed up and act like pricks doesn’t mean the rest of us should. At least Boris was honest. Freedom day will be
100000 infections a day
100 deaths
1000 hospitalisations
1250 long Covid cases
And that’s ok even though by keeping social distancing and masks we could reduce some of this we should just say fuck it what’s the point
Japan cancelling spectators at olympics
Israel making masks compulsory indoors
We are the only country with exponentially increasing infection rates with a highly transmissible variant saying no more, do what you think is best all will be ok
Wow
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deaths have hardly increased. The vaccines have broken the link between cases and deaths. It’s time to get on with life.
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Sorry to hear that.One of my relatives died of COVID at a relatively young age so again you make sweeping assumptions about me.
Sorry to hear that.
The thing is, how many people are obsessing over how many people have died from other things every day? If it's COVID it's rammed in your face every day.
Has it not?
All this 'Long Covid'
It existed before. Its called Post Viral Fatigue syndrome. Its been recognised for decades.
Put the word covid in it though and thats different isnt it
Not completely no and risking it with 2.8m cases a month seems a bizarre choiceHas it not?
Visiting the old barracks hey mate?Fuck it , we've booked for Cyprus next July, here's hoping
Because it's in the media and rammed down people's throats.Can’t think why. Anyone got any ideas?
It’ll die off from the news eventually anyway. It was about deaths, now it’s about cases as the link looks broken. Then we can get back to articles about tits.
In news that will surprise nobody it seems 'freedom day' is quickly turning into a shambles.
The Times are reporting that the vaccine / negative test passports that have proven effective at test events will be dropped as planned on July 19th but then reintroduced 6 - 10 weeks later. Can someone explain to me why we've tested a system, shown it works and now plan to drop it only to bring it back again in a few weeks?
Meanwhile The Guardian reports Whitehall sources saying "that ministers had been spooked by internal polling" with one poll showing only 10% of the public support the removal of all restrictions and a second poll showing people believed the government was moving too quickly.
Problem now is that Johnson won't backtrack, not because he's 'following the science' or because of polling but because it “would be political suicide”.
Where do these polls even come from. I don’t think I’ve ever participated in a poll in my life apart from SBTMeanwhile The Guardian reports Whitehall sources saying "that ministers had been spooked by internal polling" with one poll showing only 10% of the public support the removal of all restrictions and a second poll showing people believed the government was moving too quickly.
But we’re always going to have high cases at some point? There’s no avoiding it, we just need to stop the hospitals being overwhelmed and people from dying. That seems to be the case nowNot completely no and risking it with 2.8m cases a month seems a bizarre choice
Where do these polls even come from. I don’t think I’ve ever participated in a poll in my life apart from SBT
Where do these polls even come from. I don’t think I’ve ever participated in a poll in my life apart from SBT
One poll said a large percentage wanted a 10 pm curfew even after Covid no longer was a threat
There are a lot of people who'd like that kind of thing regardless of Covid - keep the youth under control and all that.One poll said a large percentage wanted a 10 pm curfew even after Covid no longer was a threat
As ever on here however, it's being painted as black and white (not from you tbf). Now, the Chief Medical Officer days most restrictions should end... so I'll go with that. He also gave a very precise explanation over where he'd wear a mask, and none of that was overly radical, but we're not mandating that.But we’re always going to have high cases at some point? There’s no avoiding it, we just need to stop the hospitals being overwhelmed and people from dying. That seems to be the case now
It’s a contagious virus and we have people mixing with each other. There’s no getting away from it is there, unless we have constant lockdowns forever? The vulnerable have been vaccinated and the deaths are now much much much lower than they were at other times when the cases were at this level.
Time to get on with life now isn’t it and learn to live with it
If you’re referring to that Economist poll then it was 18% that wanted a permanent 10pm curfew. More than you’d expect but certainly not “large”.
Sample size was 1,025 which is about 0.00002% of the population.
So basically your comment backs up why you can’t really use these polls to draw any serious conclusions.
There’s something similar here with over 40s having priority over under 39s. They can get appointments within days rather than a couple of weeks and 2nd doses within 4 vs 5 weeks.It seems there is now a push to vaccinate second doses for over 40’s much quicker - within 4 weeks of dose 1
I suspect we are reaching the limit of those who are prepared to have a first dose so that seems sensible
How a mature democracy deals with this issue
Australia: New South Wales confirms first Covid-related death in 10 months
A woman in her 90s died in Sydney, as state officials warn of a surge in new infections.www.bbc.co.uk
Nadhim Zahawi doing the rounds and not doing much to make me believe removing all restrictions is the right thing to do.
If as he says people are 'expected to wear masks in indoor enclosed places' why remove the requirement?
Was also so desperate to not say Johnson lied in parliament that he insisted severing the link between cases and hospitalisations is the same thing as weakening it. To prove this point he said 'at the current infection rate if this was without the vaccination program we would have 500-600 people being admitted to hospital a day'. Latest figure for daily admissions is 563.
But at least they've come up with a good plan to prevent the staffing crisis in the NHS getting any worse. No self isolation if they've got PPE. Sure spreading covid round hospitals will greatly improve things.
There was also a suggestion from Sir David Spiegelhalter that if Javid's numbers on expected cases are correct we're looking at 2,500 hospitalisations a day. Isn't that higher than the number that's put us into past lockdowns?
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